Not to derail the discussion away from the firmware updater... but, @bcopeland I think that @scottgu3 is talking about the same thermostat I mentioned in the Drivers by bcopeland Bio thread.
I'm still fairly new and learning. It sounds like this means I will not be able to control the thermostat through HE, which is disappointing. Right now, I do have it added to my HE as a device because I assume it will act as a repeater. I don't have it running a separate zwave network.
I do see an option to "shift" it from being a primary controller to a secondary controller, but choosing that just makes it say "waiting for shift" and starts counting down. I don't think anything happens, so I assume it's still acting as a primary controller. Should I just exclude it from my network and pretend like it doesn't even have zwave?