Rechargeable Battery for Zooz Motion Sensor

I got tired of our Zigbee Sonoff Motion Sensors timing out, so I replaced them with Zooz ZSE18s during the Black Friday sales. Zooz products have always been reliable and I have a much bigger Zwave network because of all our light switches.

I noticed that they use CR123A batteries, which I’ve never even heard of before. While I was looking for rechargeable lithium ion 1.5V AA batteries yesterday, a few members have recommended the Coast Portland ones. One user even having done personal testing on these batteries.

I notice that they carry rechargeable lithium ion batteries for the CR123a called the ZX310 Rechargeable Batteries. Has anyone tried these before with the Zooz Motion Sensors?

Might be good to update your thread title to be more accurate. It's not descriptive of your actual questions.

Being a battery freak, yes I've used CR123A rechachargables, you need to charge them about every 6-8 months depending on load, but they do save money. I have used Shockli, Tenergy, EBL & Soshine RCR123A. They require a special LiIon charger. However beware that these rechargables commonly run at 3.7 volts while the disposable CR123a run at about 3.2volts. All my Iris sensors don't mind them, however I killed a Wink siren with the higher voltage of the rechargables.
You can find 3 volt RCR123a but they are hard to find, and there are lots of garbage ones with very low capacity.
For a bargain CR123a I've tested MXBatt CR123a at 1360mAh capacity, not quite a duracell capacity, but also not 5.00 per battery. My Amazon review is the one with a video (user LLM)

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Note coast says 1.5 vs 3 volts. Hmm🙄

https://www.support.getzooz.com/kb/article/1428-zse18-motion-sensor-faqs/

Where are you seeing that? The ZX310 linked says 3.7V

I believe they are referring to NiMH rechargeable batteries not the Lithium Ion ones that have constant voltage.

Which of those would you recommend? And yes, the Coast Portland ones run at 3.7V. I’ll look for review MXBatt.

Here: https://www.coastportland.com/products/zx-cr123

Any of the brands I mentioned work well, it depends what you're able to source. Don't forget, the special charger needed for the 3.2 volt(LiPO4) is different from the 3.7volt(LiIon) charger. Some chargers do both. Do not buy a cheap azz charger, it can be a fire hazard. Xtar, Nitecore, Opus make good chargers. Some models do both battery types, ples NiMh NiCd

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Where do you see that the ZX310 is compatible with CR123(A)?

I have never seen a NiMH 16340.

Probably the inverse of their faq is true. A 16340 is probably never going to get to the low battery warning on the device.

You just have a need for rechargables for green and perhaps long term cost reasons?

ZX310 is a 16340/RCR123a battery, which is the rechargeable lithium ion name for a CR123a battery.

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Yeah this is one of the problems I see. But this is true with any lithium ion battery. For example, we have recharegable lithium ion batteries for all our locks and it literally goes from being charged to being dead. I've had to set up the Battery Monitor app to report low as 50% or less for these. But the upside is the lock never gets weak over time since the voltage is constant.

The other issue I see is these are typically 3.7V so it could potentially fry the sensor. Maybe I'll try it with one sensor first to see if it kills it.

Our main reasons are for green and long term cost reasons, yes.

Do you have a link to the MXBatt you reviewed by anychance? I can't find a review by LLM for this one. I'll check out the EBL & Tenergy ones. They're always priced so well and they current have a 25% off. Thanks for the tip on the charger.

Edit: Dangit... The Tenergy Cyber Monday code doesn't work anymore. We'll have to wait until Christmas.

sure, it's says MXbatt on the package but is listed under MXPow. Hopefully they haven't changed OEM's since then
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D59DPF5H?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_36

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Thank you!

Please keep us updated on your satisfaction with the batteries you try. Thanks!

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Back in 2021-22, I tried a few different rechargeable batteries for motion sensors, which for me a few dozen Iris v2 (CR2) and a 3 Aeotec Multisensor 6 (two CR123A). The CR123A rechargeables I tried were EBL ones that were 3.0V (CR123A 3V Lithium Micro USB Battery | EBL), since Aeotec specifically says not to use 3.7V rechargeables.

They worked fine initially. I was expecting the normal issue with battery level reporting not working well.

But, both types of motion sensors started reporting errant false motion events after about 6-8 months, as the batteries were getting low on charge (but still reporting 100%). This played havoc with HSM the first time I had it Armed Away and the house was empty, I got dozens of alerts from the phantom motion events.

In the end I stopped using rechargeables on any motion sensor. I do use them exclusively on (interior) contact sensors, however.

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If anyone is curious, this is what Zooz Support says about the ZX310 rechargeable batteries and Zooz ZSE18 Motion Sensors:

The battery should work with the sensor but keep in mind that the ZSE18 can only be powered by USB or Battery, not both.