I see a lot of red and a lot of latency. Does this look normal? Every single hard wired light switch in my house is an inovelli red or black, with 3 or 4 zoos switches. This network has existed for a couple years now and all switches have latest firmware. Most of the time everything is fine. But occasionally randomly something might take 5-10 seconds to respond. I've mostly gotten around this with delays and it seems like more than 5-6 devices at a time will really cause some problems. But sometimes a single device command will get delayed as well. So what do I do? I can't imagine I could create a better mesh considering every switch is z-wave so nothing is further than a few feet from another one. House is typical stick frame and drywall. The motion sensors that trigger everything are NYCE zigbee.
How long was hub running when you took this?
What Hub?
Are switch boxes plastic or metal?
Seems like an excessive number of route changes. Thats where your problem starts.
Can you post with the standard z-wave settings page?
c7, hubs been up a week or 2 I think. boxes are all plastic.
Have you done the C7 zwave firmware updates (update firmware button on the zwave detals page)?
I never noticed that button before. I'm running it now. What does that do? Update the zwave radio in the habitat?
Yes (those updates are quite rare, but useful when they're avilable).
interesting. I always assumed that regular firmware updates took care of anything like that. how would I know when to update? I don't recall ever seeing anything tell me to. Maybe this will help!
The update will be included in a Hubitat release in the sense that it'll be made available at that same time, but it isn't automatically installed (or it hasn't been so far, anyway), so its availability will be in the corresponding release notes.
But it happens only rarely -- I think I've only done it twice in the ~3 years I've had Hubitat.
I think that update button will disappear once you've applied the update.
@hydro311 @jtp10181 Thank you both for this information! I'll run it and see how the mesh looks and responds over the next few days!
There is usually a big deal about it in the release notes and other posts on the forums. Also any time that button is visible there is an update. They had two big updates where Silicone labs fixed the major underlying issues with the zwave stack. It is pretty stable now so I suspect we wont see much else for z-wave updates on the C7 unless it is something major.
So anyway... a lot of the issues fixed had to do with routing, what I see in your mesh lead me to think you had not done the update yet.
After it updates I would power off the hub for 10 seconds and then restart, this will allow the radio to fully reboot. You may want to run a full z-wave repair (once) after that as well to help speed up the mesh heal. I suspect you will see much better performance going forward.
@bcopeland @gopher.ny would it make sense to somehow nudge people to do the z-wave updates on a C7 if they have not? Maybe with a red alert message? Now that it has been out there for a while I think it is pretty safe for everyone to do. I can just imagine all the people out there struggling and not knowing there is even an update button to push. They might do the hub firmware update when they see the notice and that's it.
Where is your hub in relation to most of these devices?
Center of the house
Metal or plastic boxes? Plaster and lathe or drywall?
plastic boxes. stick frame house with drywall
Hmm, you have an inoordinate amount of route changes which usually means a weak mesh. I mean your 0x49 switch should be minimum 40 (best is 100) but it's at 9.6. I'm trying to figure out where the blockages are coming from since you have a lot of mains based things.
If this button existed on the check for updates page I would have clicked it a long long time ago. It's kinda hidden where it is and if I ever did notice it I likely assumed it was another way to upgrade zwave devices. This is our mindset with hubitat because there are multiple ways of doing everything. I see a firmware update and I just run it. I might glance at the release notes but I don't study them really.
For giggles shut down the hub, unplug for at least 2 mins and power back up and see how it goes and if those numbers improve.
@rlithgow1 did you see up above that he had not updated the z-wave firmware?
I would say this is solved unless we hear otherwise after the update is done and they can give it some time to settle in and see how its working now.
