There's also a kickstarter for indoor presence... https://community.hubitat.com/t/inlo-presence-indoors/48027
Yep, that's the one I'm running (package manager one). Should be V2.
I think the real fly in the ointment is the Hubitat native Geofence. It seems like this is the one that is intermittent.
Yes, I agree. I do not have it included in the presence calculations for my own house.
A good geolocation alternative for iOS is Geofency. I have it make HTTP requests to a rule that sets presence. It probably performs better because it has a singular purpose. It’s also not tied to a cloud service, which is a plus.
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I just downloaded the app. Do you mind sharing how you set this up to work in something like Combined Presence?
Sure thing.
I created 2 rules in rule machine (Justin Arrived & Justin Departed). The trigger is a cloud endpoint (copy the Cloud End Point URL). This produces a URL that you can make an HTTP GET request to.
In Geogency I configured a Webhook and enabled Notify on Entry and Notify on Exit using my rule machine cloud endpoints.
Then my combined presence looks like this:
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You're awesome! Thanks!
One more question though, and I have searched but what is the easiest way to get the cloud end point? I'm missing something.
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I got it. Didn't realize that the endpoint was already an option when creating a new rule!
Okay wait.
I get how to create the Arrived and Departed Rules (I think), but when I create the entry it just has the URL in the action and it doesn't say "arrived() on Eric iPhone".
How did you create that part?
This is what mine looks like:
The action I picked was:
Do I need the Maker API app do do this?
I use Life360 for presence and it has been flawless. The key in my mind is to make the presence circle bigger. I think that most people have problems with it because they make the radius around their house too small. I have mine about 3500 feet in diameter and it has never failed me.
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I really only have 2 issues with Life360. #1 is that it SUCKS my battery dry (if I leave location services on all the time) and #2 is that I bought the Hubitat to really be local and I don't really want to have to rely on the cloud. #2 is not really too big of a deal to me, but #1 is the deal breaker.
Ahhhh! Thanks so much for that. I have a ways to go before I am a Hubitat master.
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Dang. I thought I had it, but did not.
One last question. Your output sensor, is it just a virtual presence (Justin's iPhone Combined)?
I'm using the device setup by the Hubitat app (I still use it for notifications), but it could be a virtual presence. You don't want it to be your combined presence device. I have 3 devices:
- Justin - Geofency
- Justin - Wifi
- Justin - Combined
So you bring up an interesting point. Your device "Justin - Geofency" has got to be a virtual presence, right? But how do you sync this Device with the Rule "Justin Arrived" or "Justin Departed"? There seems to be a core concept that I am not understanding with Hubitat.
Is this were the Mode manager comes into play?
Mode manager does not come into play here.
Sorry, I might be confusing things here... In my case "Justin -Geofency" is "Justin's iPhone" in my screenshots. For each of the rules (arrived/departed) I select "Justin's iPhone".
My devices according to my screenshots are:
- Justin's iPhone
- Driver: Mobile App Device (if using Hubitat app) or Virtual Presence
- connected to rule machine for arrived/departed
- Justin iPhone Wifi
- Driver: iPhone Wifi Presence Sensor
- Justin's iPhone Combined
- Driver: Virtual Presence
- connected to combined presence app)
Okay I get it! Thanks! But I think my Geofency phone app is not interacting with my Rules for Arrived and Departed.
I set up the Geofency circle as small as it would go, and the Hubitat mobile app very large.
When I step outside the Geofency circle it does not kick off the rule to close my garage door.
Either the Geofency part is not working, or the Advanced Combiner is not working.
I w have a dashboard set up for 'Eric - iPhone' and 'Eric - Combined' and neither one works when I step outside the Geofency circle. Should it be fairly instantaneous?
Should the Test Enter and Test Exit on Geofency app make my 'Eric - Iphone' presence change?
And do I need to put my login info into Geofency? I have security turned on in Hubitat.
I have life360 set at 1000ft and it works great.
Yes, life360 definitely worked great. It just killed my battery like no other app.
Sounds good !How many users can you add on one app purchase? Or do I need purchase app on each device?
