Physical switch to change Modes

Neither will the garage door. Just kidding.
edit: Ignore this stupid remark. I mis-remembered Konnected's function.

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I am looking to changes modes with a simply wired switch to ensure that I can change modes to Disabled in the event of a power outage.

Any thoughts on the rule I would need to program this little wired switch to change modes? Thanks!

as I said that won't work or unless u have battery backup in the hub , your wifi and switches.

and in that case a Zigbee or zwave wireless remote will also work.

A toggle makes a state check easy. The momentary switch makes that so much harder.

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You will want to consider what happens as a result of the mode change as well, if you haven't already, making sure any actions can also be performed during any outage.

Hi JumpJump, harder? I am curious why you say that? It seems that the switch would create a momentary connection when pressed that could be programmed to change modes. I am just not sure how to do the programming.

My system is on a UPS. While the UPS is active the button should work. Once the UPS fails the system would shut down, this is a moot point, the system could not be accidently triggered.

In rule machine select the button press as the trigger.
Then create if/then and else statements. If mode is armed, then set mode to disarmed.
Else, set mode to armed. (Assuming only 2 modes). Otherwise, use Else, if mode is disarmed, then set mode to armed.
Sorry, I just saw that this doesn’t connect to the Hub, and I don’t know anything about Konnected

If you are looking for a loss of power notification the Ring z-wave extender works. It plugs in but has a built-in battery. Notifies on AC power loss and can be used in a rule to change mode. It connects directly to Hubitat without a Ring hub. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Ring-Alarm-Z-Wave-Range-Extender-2nd-Gen/1002751870

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Thanks for the reply bbrannon but I am looking to connect a small simple switch directly into my Konnected board that would trigger Hubitat to change Mode. I am still researching.

A very simple solution, assuming you have space for it, would be to simply add an in-wall normal ‘dumb’ on/off light switch. Attach the two terminals on that light switch to your Konnected board’s digital input, like any other magnetic contact sensor. Then, simply have an app on the HE hub perform whatever action your desire when the switch is ON and when the switch is OFF. This could be to change the MODE of the hub, or to Arm/Disarm the Hubitat Safe Monitor (HSM) as you see fit.

You could add a new in-wall box to mount the toggle/decora style switch, assuming you can fish the low voltage wiring through the wall to your Konnected board.

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Or, just get a Zooz ZEN34 :innocent:

Sure, that would work...

But not exactly what the OP asked for... :wink:

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Right, but a heck of a lot easier than cutting drywall, fishing wires, etc.

That's essentially what I have been saying with the toggle switch.

Should use a switch designed for DC. The toggle a linked up thread is actually designed for alarm panels.

A standard wall light switch will handle low current (mA) DC just fine. They are used with gas fireplaces all of the time to switch milliVolt level signals generated by a pilot light thermocouple. High current DC loads do need a switch rated for DC to avoid arcing and damaging the contacts. But a 5Vdc signal, generating a few mA of current is not going to cause any damage to a typical in-wall SPST light switch.

And... they blend into the home decor much more readily. Always have to consider the WAF! :wink: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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This is somewhat true, but I would caution stating this as fact. Most home switches are not approved for DC loads. Check the specs before using DC loads on AC switches. AC switch contacts are designed to be self cleaning with AC loads only. They are not self cleaning with DC loads. AC and DC switches use different materials for the contacts.

In the context of this thread using a switch to close a circuit on a Konnected board it's probably fine and would 'work', but since other choices are available like DC rated wall switches and millions of DC toggle options I don't see why we wouldn't want to simply call out the ideal application while perhaps offering qualified comments on things like using AC rated switches. DC rated switches will be on the whole safer, more reliable and more professional.

I'm just being cautious here because I really don't want anyone mistakenly using a regular wall switch to switch 48v 10a loads because somone said you can use a wall switch with DC loads. That would be dangerous. The OP is not doing that though.

Carry on...

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I agree 100%. I updated my earlier post just before you posted this clarification. We are on the same page!

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So, not sure what the Konnected pro Hubitat interface looks like, but if it doesn't have the ability to convey arm/disarm states, initiated by the switch, to Hubitat via that interface then you need a double pole switch: one pole wires to your Konnected panel and the other pole is used to trigger a hubitat connected contact sensor. Throw the switch, alarm armed, contact sensor closed, hubitat mode set to armed using any of the above code examples.

Thanks all - my goal is to come up with a simple WIRED solution that will work 100% of the time regardless of network status. I have checked with Konnected and they have given me some ideas. I will reply back once try wht Konnected has recommended.

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