Pairing zigbee smart bulbs when on same circuit

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I have just installed Juno Connect smart wafers with a bunch on the same circuit, so I have one switch that will cut power to all of them. I toggled the switch on/off a bunch of times until they started to blink and then I paired them to my Hubitat. All except for one showed up. Any idea what to do next? I suspect that if I toggle the switch on/off to reset the bulbs again it will reset all of them. Should I delete all of them from my Hubitat and then do the reset thing and start over? Or, maybe deleting the other bulbs from Hubitat isn't really necessary first? I can just try of course but maybe someone with more experience will know the right thing to save me some frustration. Thanks for any ideas!

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How hard are they to access? I would be inclined to drop that one light, and with power on for all lights just plug and unplug the unpaired light to get it into pairing mode.

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If you reset a ZigBee device but don't delete it from your HE hub, when you re-pair it the hub will recognize it and restore any programming that you might have done previously regarding it's name and automations.
So unless you want it forgotten, don't delete it from your HE hub. :slight_smile:

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Great point. Yea, don't remove the old ones in Hubitat, that will just create more work.

I think the issue is syncing these to all pair at once. Some will reset and not come back, and then you are stuck with a different light not paired. I bet it would be quite the task to get them all in pairing mode and paired in one go.

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You are all exactly right. It's great that Hubitat remembers the device. But yes, as @neonturbo said, they all have to pair at once. Each time I try a different set of the lights pair. I'll try again tomorrow after bringing the hub closer to the lights (hub is in basement, lights are on second floor).

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This is what I'll probably end up doing. I have to pull the wafer out of the ceiling, and open up the box where the connections are nutted together, so pretty inconvenient but if needed should do the trick.

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I didn't realize these were hardwired like that. I was thinking of the retrofit can ones with an inline connector.

I have heard of people using (temporarily) a toggle switch or dumb light switch hooked up inline with the power to do the pairing sequence. This could be dangerous to do, but would seem to be a safer way than handling bare wires. I am not advocating using either method, but IF I were to do this I would electrical tape everything on the toggle like crazy and use electrically insulated work gloves.

Some of those Mechanix style gloves (mostly in the Speedknit lineup) are electrically rated CATII, and I have some Maxiflex Ultimate nitrile work gloves that have a CATII rating on them. One of the home improvement stores should carry something like that.

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I've made some progress. Maybe this will help others.

  1. Hubitat attempts to pair for 60 seconds. I was giving up if it didn't find all the bulbs in that time. I realized I can just click on the button again to have Hubitat try for another 60 seconds. And then another, and then another.

  2. I managed to have the remaining straggler bulbs pair by turning the power to the bulbs off, waiting for maybe 20 seconds, turning power back on again, and trying to pair again. The realization was that I didn't have to factory reset all the time. I don't know how long the bulbs will keep trying to pair after a factory reset but apparently it's for some time.

So, I think I had them all paired, but then the last one to pair stopped responding to on/off commands so maybe it wasn't a complete success. But, progress!

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