Now I MUST buy something that uses Matter

I've liked the Third Reality Smart Color Night Light. It has RGB light, motion, and lux sensors. It hasn't always stayed attached to the network, but has been working well over the past week or so.

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I bought 8 of the Linkind Matter Smart Plugs to power all of our indoor Christmas decorations. Been working great for a couple of weeks now.

For testing I'm using Alexa to commission two of them and the rest are going through Google Home. I found the Google Home process easier. Haven't had any problems since setup.

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Nice price too. Thanks for the info.

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only the newer generation of Nest Thermostats

if anyone wants to wait:

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The two receptacles in the Eve Energy Outlet can be individually switched and automated, Eve says,

Somewhere (here?) I thought I had read that dual controlled outlets weren't allowed in the US due to electrical codes. Is that incorrect?

That's why I love the xfinity sensors...Smaller, thinner

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I don't see why it would be restricted... My understanding for typical use of the single outlet on the receptacle control has been because of the amount of electronics needed vs max space of the outlet. I also don't think they would release something against code. While it may or may not be UL Listed, I would think that most companies like this would be aware of code....

Hey, if that means a 10 year battery life, I'm in.

It was a code compliance thing for many regions. It was so the electrician always had a "normal" outlet to verify power/power removed at the outlet. Covers the case where it is off, electrician thinks power is isolated, and then someone turns it on remotely and zappo.

The ruling for a long time was that for remote operated outlets the remote operation switch had to be physically within the electricians control (same room was the common interpretation). Since you can't be in the "same room" with wireless remote operation, only 1 outlet could be automated.

Not sure what the current NEC or local compliance wording looks like though in terms of management/control of remotely operated outlets. What I listed above may be a relic from the past these days, and no longer apply.

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Most people's spouses won't be "in" though... lol

I'm usually in the "higher battery life trumps size" camp too, though. That's why my custom LoraWAN Motion sensors have 2x18650 batteries. Infinity battery life (OK, not infinity, but you get it... 7K+ mAh)... :slight_smile:

Maybe what bothers me more than the raw size is that I really don't like this Aqara one being mainly round - it makes for a very small contact area for the sticky tape to mount it. I would rather wide and flat to big and round.

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I made the mistake of buying a bunch of coin battery devices. They're just pitifully short lived. I'm constantly replacing the batteries.

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I won't use try not to use anything that needs replacement more frequent than yearly (other than door locks - replacement frequency is 100% related to amount of use - and that is hard to predict).

I'm ok with yearly though. I just have one morning I go replace them all en masse regardless of their current battery status. Takes an hour, and I move on with my life until next year.

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A lot of my sensors CR2450's. Last about a year....

I still have Ring, Ecolink, and Monoprice sensors that are 5+ years old and show 100%, never been changed.

Then you aren't "constantly replacing the batteries". :wink:

I'm just teasing. I fully understand what you are saying.

My Pico's are like that, My oldest is 12 years old and gets used a few times a day and the battery has never been changes.

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What a mistake for a smart in-wall outlet. There's no way to switch the individual receptacles ON manually from the outlet, and there's no load sensing (a feature that Insteon has had for many years). There used to be a Z-Wave outlet that also had load sensing, but I can no longer remember who made it.

I will have an Eve Energy plug delivered today that I ordered yesterday. Felt it was time to test Matter.
I don't really need another smart plug right now but you can never have too many smart plugs so... :grinning:

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