A bit discouraging but hopefully I can stick with HE...
I had Smartthings, then went to Vera as they touted about being locally ran and so much better, Hubitat is exactly what Vera "claimed" to be but has failed, and costs 3X the price, I am 100% satisfied with my switch, and glad I don't have the frustrations from Vera anymore, Hubitat has pushed out updates I believe every day since my start Monday, Vera hasn't sent out one since I started them in last Sept.
Found the offending zwave devices, removed them. Repair only took 35 min. Factory wiped the devices and then added back and all seems well for now. I think we can consider this resolved. Thanks for the help.
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