New homekit integration info?

[dennypage]

Victor has indicated that the trigger for exclusion is based upon the capability set of the driver. In particular, if the driver has "DoorControl" as a capability, it will be excluded regardless of whether it is built-in or community.

Edit: I have tested this btw, and removed DoorControl from one of my drivers as a result.

[nrus2222]

Thanks @bertabcd1234 .

Does it mean that none of my devices that use custom drivers (not HE built-in) can be exposed to homekit?

[marktheknife]

@nrus2222

Any idea about limiting different subsets of devices for different users within homekit or on HE side?

Can't have siblings controlling each other's stuff, nor Mom's stuff...

@nrus2222

hate that another piece of hardware needed for basic functionality of homekit to HE from outside of LAN, I was thinking HE was going to be a homekit hub device

This would all be good feedback to give directly to Apple. As @gopher.ny has mentioned, Apple calls the shots when it comes to the iOS Home app and what is possible with HomeKit.

[bertabcd1234]

@nrus2222

Does it mean that none of my devices that use custom drivers (not HE built-in) can be exposed to homekit

No, custom Zigbee and Z-Wave drivers are fine (but again, still subject to the other restrictions).

[nrus2222]

Got it. So custom OK, but custom and virtual is the problem?

[JBrown]

I have a custom driver for fans, and they do not show up in the Homekit Integration app. With that said there may be a issue with my driver.

[johnwill1]

@Ken_Fraleigh

I would caution anyone with a working Homebridge setup not to dismantle their existing setup and rely solely on beta software.

Nah - I've had to do that back and forth 5 times over the last few weeks, I get quicker with practice

[bertabcd1234]

@nrus2222

custom and virtual is the problem?

Yeah, or any "forbidden" capability...or at least that's my current understanding. Apparently the guidelines aren't super-clear (and this changed at least once during the private beta), but I think that's the interpretation they settled on; if/when they get certified, it may change if Apple disagrees.

[nrus2222]

Worth a try, but doubt they'll listen or care. Apple is worse than Samsung...they know what's best for us...

[jtp10181]

@JBrown

I have a custom driver for fans, and they do not show up in the Homekit Integration app. With that said there may be a issue with my driver.

I have an open case in the Beta section about fans not showing up consistently, not sure what the issue is yet but the devs know about it.

[user1433]

I don’t see my LIFX bulbs in the list, only the groups I created (via Groups and Scenes app). Also, how do I enable “Adaptive Lighting” for the group of light with the native HomeKit integration app?

[Ken_Fraleigh]

@user1433

Adaptive Lighting

Not available. I’ve asked @gopher.ny a couple times but he’s still busy with more pressing issues.

[bertabcd1234]

LAN and WiFi devices are not supported. See: HomeKit Integration | Hubitat Documentation

For adaptive lighting, I don't think most Hubitat devices will wok for that as the driver seems like it would need to support prestaging, which many don't.

[user1433]

Thanks both for the answer. I’ll stick with Homebridge for now.

[Ken_Fraleigh]

It works with Homebridge V2. It doesn’t send the commands unless the light is on. That’s very important, because prior to that change, it would eventually crash my hub from sending commands to every Zigbee light every minute.

[danabw]

@Ken_Fraleigh

Thus, it cannot be done remotely.

Except if you have a VPN? Or do they block that some way?

[nrus2222]

Upgraded HE firmware, installed homekit, enabled a few devices, played around with home app, hated it, weighed potential benefits of siri/voice/apple automations, decided to uninstall everything within 30 min or so.

Apple's home app dashboard is really terrible compared to literally everything else I've looked at and used, including S-T's terrible offering. Love my iPhone, but not seeing anything in this ecosystem that's useful to me yet - siri voice control alone is not compelling to me.

Will keep watching, but for me right now, homekit just adds unnecessary complexity with little/no benefit.

[dJOS]

@nrus2222

Apple's home app dashboard is really terrible compared to literally everything else I've looked at and used, including S-T's terrible offering.

I'm surprised, my wife finds it much easier to use, especially since iOS16.

Personally, I quite like it too.

[marktheknife]

Me too. Plenty of other iOS users seem to find it useful for manual control of devices and status monitoring. To each their own, I suppose.

[jtp10181]

@nrus2222

Apple's home app dashboard is really terrible compared to literally everything else I've looked at and used

Once I setup Homebridge a while back I abandoned the slow-to-load Hubitat dashboards for good. Nice thing about Homekit is it is built right into the OS so it loads up fast and is integrated with Siri.