New 700 series products from Zooz

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100w max led load on the dimmer? Yuck.

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Seems a bit... light. :rofl:

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It is OK for a lot of applications I guess, but I have 3 different places in my house that 100w led on a dimmer wouldn't cut it. Seems like a weird design choice for a new device when most other newly designed dimmers can do 150w or 300w on LEDs these days.

@jasonjoel Is that the draw or equivalent? I mean if it's a 100 watt equiv, the draw from the led is likely below 12 watts actual. This means a 100 watt load switch is more than adequate

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Draw. I have a lot of bulbs - big rooms with recessed lighting. So unless I want to use like 40w equivalent LEDs, there would be no way I could stay under 100w draw.

For something like a bedroom, bathroom, or hallway that only have a few bulbs 100w max would work.

But knowing I need some >100w, why would I buy the zooz at all? I don't want 2-3 different models and brands of dimmers in my house. That was my point I guess - just make a higher rating that works in all areas like Inovelli and GE did.

Inovellli Red - 150w/200w/300w LED (depending on # of tabs you leave on/break off)
GE Enbrighten - 300w LED
Older GE/Jasco - 150W LED
Caseta - 150W LED

No big deal either way. I just think a new device with only 100w LED capacity is very odd / an outlier versus the other products out there.

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Got it, wasn't thinking about groups... (I'm running lutron caseta all throughout)

For the record Caseta are 150w LED rated (as are the older GE/Jasco dimmers).

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As are the Zooz V3 & 4's (500 series) - seems only the 700 series has that limit.

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That's why I think it is odd. :slight_smile:

When other manufacturers have 700 series dimmers out I guess we'll see if they have the same limitation. If so, I guess I won't be buying any 700 series dimmers any time soon. :slight_smile:

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A 65 watt eq led is ~7-9 watts so this switch will accommodate 11-14 BR30 LEDs. Seems like that would accommodate most lighting. I have a large kitchen with 9 recessed cans on one switch, 4 on another and 6 dangly ( as I called them when the wife picked them ) lights on another. Originally the 9 cans were 100 watt incandescent on a regular switch, I wouldn’t expect to see much above that on a single switch in a normal 15 amp lighting circuit as that’s only 1650 watts of power for the whole circuit.

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I agree that most lighting can stay under 100w LED - but not all. I use 85W equivalent bulbs (13W actual) and have 8-12 per room. I like it very bright during the day (they are all at 100%), and them dim them at night.

8x13w=104w
12x13w=156w

I'm not arguing that 100w won't be enough for most applications. My point is that when all of their competition is rated at 150-300w, a low rating like 100w is an outlier. For me 100w max IS limiting and would make me not buy it. 150w LED capable is the minimum I would buy (and luckily that is what pretty much every other dimmer on the market already does).

Each to their own.

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On another note...if I was looking for a UZB stick, this price looks very nice.

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I used their 500 series sticks .. I even had flashed one for zniffer.. I can't say anything about their 700 series ones as I haven't used it, but I got a lot of mileage out of their 500 series ones..

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most LED range from 5-10 W Max (atual Watts) so unless your have 10-20 lamps on a switch?

As mentioned above, the led bulbs I use are 13-16 watt each, and yes I have 8-12 bulbs per big room.

So like I said, a 100w max dimmer could be ok for bedrooms or areas with a low number of bulbs. :slight_smile: (Aka small to medium room).

As I have multiple rooms with >100w led loads, I won't be buying this zooz model (or any other model with a 100w led max load).

My situation likely only comes into play with large rooms with recessed lighting, as that drives the # of bulbs up quickly.

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