Networking Settings - Slow Hub vs Fast Hub

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@gopher.ny

My original hub was SUPER slow downloading updates, while my newer one zipped right along.

I decided to try to fix that and am having mixed results--I suspect that it has to do with AutoNegotiate.

My old hub was at "Fixed 100", my new one is/was at "Auto-Negotiate (default)".

When I changed the old hub from fixed to "AutoNegotiate", it went from a few hundred KB/s to 1.2MB/s--but my newer hub runs at ~8MB/s (same network--I have 1Gbps up and down with Google Fiber).

Is there any difference between "Auto negotiated (set)" and "Auto negotiated (default)"??

Is there a way to get it back to that "(default)" short of a factory reset?

Thoughts?

Thanks!

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One is an explicit setting and another is effectively a "no configuration" setting. I haven't seen any meaningful differences between the two. The wording is there to show users whether they explicitly overrode the setting at some point.

No, for reasons stated above.

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All three of my hub download slowly now since before 2.2.7 was available. I executed the commands to disable auto negotiate and all three are showing 100mbit on my switch. Need to look at it again but not expecting different results.

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I think the enable and disable work the opposite of what you expect.

It sounds like (and my experience is that) fixed 100 is very slow and auto negotiate works faster.

I'd guess @gopher.ny could clarify that.

I'm just wondering why two hubs configured nearly identically run at such different speeds (1.2 MB/s vs ~8 MB/s).

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Have you tried swapping ports and ethernet cables?

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Not yet, but I guess that's an idea.

:smiley:

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FWIW, both of mine are on the same switch with identical Cat6 cables, and configured for "Auto Negotiated (set)". One is a C-5 and the other is a C-7. Their LAN performance is pretty much identical.

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Really?? You are right I have mine set to 100 fixed. I thought that was the thing to do. I have a pair of netgear GS316’s as my main trunk and I know some of the netgear switches are on the bad list for auto negotiating with HE.

I’ll give it a whirl with my sandbox hub. I guess to test I will have to revert and then upgrade.

And yes I realize it is different from your issue. Sorry to hijack.

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Depends on the router/switch it is connected to. I think for many if not most networking devices out there practical difference between the two settings is negligible.

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Auto-negotiate vs set is really a non issue unless there is some weird thing between the attached nic and the switch or the software for some ungodly reason from hell can't use full duplex (in the days of yore) There are some switches that don't play nice with certain brands of nic's but 9 times out of 10 it's a faulty issue in the switch manufacturer vs the nic (not that certain nic manufacturers don't play fast and loose) So in general unless you're having a specific issue, I would just leave it on auto-negotiate.

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Well a few months ago one of my hub was downloading the update in a few seconds and the other two were taking a couple of minutes.

I set the all for 100 fixed and they were all downloading in a few seconds the next go around.

Now they are all back to taking two minutes.

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Yes-and no difference.

@gopher.ny any thing else I can try?

What is the expected speed for the speed test? This one only gets about 1.4 MB/sec vs about 8 on the other.

(I'm on a 1Gbps up and down fiber and the fiber adapter is plugged directly into my Asus router, which is where the slow hub connects.)

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How are you testing the speed? I assume there is an app for that?

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Using the networking test page

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Thanks. I will go look.

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\Settings\Networking

Then the "Network Test" link at the top

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Wow there is a lot more in here than there use to be. I knew there was the static IP setup which I don’t use because I used a reserved IP on my router. And I knew there was the wifi dongle set up but all this other stuff is new to me. I didn’t even know you can select the auto negotiate here - I was still using the web commands.

It was set to 100m fixed like I thought and I ran the test and got 215kb/s. Lol.

Set it to auto, rebooted and reran.

2021-08-07 15:14:43 (5.07 MB/s)

Gotta try now on the other hubs.

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Yup same results with the other two. Both were around 200kb/a before and greater than 4.5mb/s after.

Thank you @rob9 for starting this thread. I hope you get you issue resolved.

Have you tried a different patch cable to you hub that is showing 1.2mb/s?

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Yes--no difference. Used a new cable and a different port. Not sure what the issue is.

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Aside from getting a managed router I wonder if @gopher.ny can pull and data about packet errors/collisions/retries for you. Something must be wrong.

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