Tagging @HAL9000 , @JB10 Continuing our discussion of thread networks from the Ikea thread. This morning my Home app showed all 80 some odd devices offline. That included Matter, Thread, and HE devices. Everything was still working from other means, such as HE app. Had to unplug both the Pod and th…

[image] JB10: it is closer to Zigbee to LAN than all IPv6. It literally isn’t. Zigbee and Thread share the same PHY, the difference between them is Thread carries IPv6 frames, while Zigbee has its own proprietary upper layers. Matter devices, whether Thread or LAN, all communicate over IPv6…

Fair enough. It was a poor example and you are correct regarding IPv6 and Boarder Routers doing their job correctly. [image] hubitrep: I’m not sure what it would fix beyond perhaps owning the credentials. Because Hubitat would no longer be dependent on other system’s Boarder Routers. Devices…

There was a time in my life where I actually understood networking. But after retiring almost 15 years ago I quit keeping up. So this conversation is way way over my head. And I realized I really don’t care that much anymore. As long as things are working I’ll let it. Speaking of working, my thread…

[image] j715: But after retiring almost 15 years ago I quit keeping up A little over 13 years for me, and I feel the same way.

[image] JB10: Hubitat would no longer be dependent on other system’s Boarder Routers. That is true, and the independence it would bring would have some value. Such as, for example, not requiring a double-commissioning of each Matter-over-Thread device (once to the TBR, then to the hub). I s…

I knew I was tempting fate by saying all my thread devices were staying connected. My Eve sensor dropped off HE. Was still fine in Home. I tried initialize, configure, and refresh. Nothing worked. Then about 20 minutes after the event it caught up. Which basically makes it unusable. To be clear no …

Thread devices dropping like flys from HE this morning. Well there was hope for awhile…:sleepy_face:

[image] j715: Thread devices dropping like flys from HE this morning Curious: Are all your Matter-over-Thread devices also battery-powered? Are all your Matter-over-Wifi devices also mains-powered?

All of the Thread devices are battery powered. I have quite a few regular Matter devices. They are all mains powered. Not having any issues with those.

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HAL9000 June 8, 2026, 10:46pm 13

Related, but since it was specific to eero, I created a new thread about trying to use eero as my Thread backbone (spoiler alert: mixed results, but no joy for IKEA devices).