Matter over Thread v/s Matter over WiFi

Great info Bryan! Thank you!

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HUe bridge does pair but its emty doe to lack of hub driver.

There are no much benefits of integrating Philips Hue bridge via Matter, if compared to using the Hue specific LAN protocol.

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Question is wich one is going to be more reliable...

For the moment, there is no doubt - the most reliable are the proven existing community Hue bridge integrations

The Matter implementation in Hubitat and the Matter protocol are still very new.

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Krassimir

Do we need comissioning hub for matter wifi devices?

Uh… I have always commissioned my Matter devices using Apple Home or Smart Life (for the Zemismart Bridge). And I always avoid WiFi devices.

Update: I've finally unpackaged a cheap Chinese Mater WiFi bulb, and I can confirm that it was not possible to pair it directly to Hubitat using the bulb QR code .

I added it first to the Zemismart hub (I had to move it close to the router; the pairing failed several times!), then I selected 'Pair via Matter' from the Smart Life app and got a new, different QR code, and this new code worked to bring it to my C-7 hub.

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Is Hubitat both “Matter-Over-Thread” and “Matter-Over-Wi-Fi?” Which generations support what?

It doesn't matter (no pun intended), as Hubitat does not directly commission devices onto Thread or Wi-Fi. You need a Matter controller on your network that does, then you can use that controller to put the Matter device in pairing mode and add it to Hubitat (at least for now; I'd expect Matter over Wi-Fi to be something that could become possible to use some day directly given that all the hardware is there to support it, but Thread would need another radio). At that point, it doesn't matter what protocol the Matter device is using -- it just needs to be on the Matter fabric you're using to put it in pairing mode.

This document may answer other questions you have:

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That’s great thank you. I ask because iOS 18 will enable you to setup a Matter device directly, so it’s going to be a lot easier to add matter over WiFi devices to Hubitat - be good if anyone can share if any android or other OS devices have this ability as well. Anyone feel free to create a new Thread from this if you see value (no pun intended, no Matter what you think :wink:)