I'm trying to integrate my Lutron ceiling mount occupancy sensor with Hubitat. I think I added it successfully as well as the corresponding light switches it controls. However in the log for the occupancy device I don't see a line for every time the occupancy sensor detects motion. I do however see a log for every time the light turns on (the lights that are triggered by the occupancy sensor). My use case I think is a fairly standard one; during the day I want the lights to be a certain dim level and then at night I want them to be another level. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! I'm fairly adept with the Radio RA 2 software, but very new to Hubitat.
Are you sure you have the right device ID from the Lutron integration report? (This would be its own device, separate from any dimmer it may be attached to on the Lutron side.) That's my best guess; the logs for your Lutron Telnet device may also help you see what is coming into Hubitat, though if you recently set up the integration I'm not sure if it still goes through that (the integration was recently reworked by default).
The other consideration: is this Radio RA2 or RA2 Select? Select (like Caséta) does not expose these devices over telnet, unfortunately.
Thanks. This is Radio RA2 with two main repeaters and 150 devices. I’ll double check the device id’s.
You don't want to have these sensors paired to the lights in the Lutron system, if you want Hubitat to command based on motion. Also, there's a possible timing issue if the controlled light and the sensor are on the same main repeater (it would be approx 1 second slow).
Thanks! I'm not sure the sensors will work unless they are paired to the Lutron system? All I'm trying to do is essentially have them trigger a scene based on the time of day.
I believe that if paired, they don't send events via Telnet, only to the Lutron device directly. I have 2 main repeater system with 180 devices, and about 40 occ sensors. None are paired on Lutron side -- everything is done by Hubitat wrt to motion based lighting. I do it this way so I can control the level the lights come on based on mode (time of day, really). I have all of my sensors, keypads and picos on one main repeater, and most loads on the other, to get instant response.
Ahh thank you!
- So how do I pair the sensors with hubitat directly?
- How important is it to have my all sensors and keypads on the same main repeater? I programmed it based on distance. So first floor and basement on one, second floor on another main repeater. I also have two aux repeaters.
I'm very new so apologies if these are obvious questions, but I really appreciate the help!
Just include them in the Lutron Integration app with there Integration ID and whatever name you want them to have, using the code for motion sensor.
Not very. I lived with it for a few years and didn't even notice. Then added second main repeater and discover the 1 second delay, so re-arranged devices to get that extra instantaneousness.
The RF propagation stuff with Lutron, as with all radios, is hard to predict. You just have to try it and see what works and what doesn't. Having the Aux repeaters should help matters.
Ok, but for the occupancy sensors to have an integration ID (device ID) don't they need to be activated and added to the main repeater? Sorry I thought you said to not pair them with my main repeater?
Yes, they have to be part of your RA2 system. What I'm talking about is not using Inclusive to link them directly to loads. I'm not sure if that's your problem described in the first post, but might be.
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Ahh yes, right now I have the sensors linked to loads. I'll remove that. I'm very happy with radiora 2 but realize that with hubitat I can so much more so here I am getting started. Thanks so much!!!!
Do you have keypads? If so, there are some cool things you can do to make them also work specifically with time of day lighting. Also, I assume you know about phantom buttons on main repeaters? These are all accessible to Hubitat if you include the main repeater as a keypad device. And, it is possible to both control and trigger off of keypad LEDs.
Hi, yes I have many seeTouch keypads, (probably too many) and I am familiar with phantom buttons. And yes you read my mind, as I would like my keypad buttons to operate differently based on the time of day. And you answered my future question too about whether I add the main repeater as a keypad device. Finally I'm assuming I need to add each main repeater separately as each has its own IP address?
You only use one Lutron Integration app, and only the IP address of the primary main repeater for Telnet. The second is dealt with by Lutron via LAN automatically. Your first main repeater has Integration ID of 1. The second one has its own, and you can find it in the integration report. You just add them both as keypads (each with 100 buttons), using their respective integration IDs.
Dumb question here and may be hijacking this thread... If you add a second hub, (for pico's and what not (thinking of caseta) Will this also act a a repeater since one lutron hub is controlling the other?
Not a dumb question at all! I can only speak for Radio Ra2. In RA2, devices are only associated with one main repeater. Each main repeater is kind of like a separate system. So no a second main repeater does not act like a repeater for the other one. If you have a wide coverage area, then you need an aux repeater.
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With Caséta you can only have a single SmartBridge and up to 75 devices. Each additional SmartBridge is its own system, unrelated to the other. They don't repeat. Hubitat can connect as many as you want.
The discussion above was specific to RadioRA2, which has specific mechanism for two main repeaters in a single system. They don't repeat each other either, as they are on two different frequencies.
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Unless you're at the 75 device limit, adding a second Caseta Smartbridge Pro for Picos is not of value because you can't change the frequency. I wish that were possible (like with Radio RA2).
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Thanx for the clarification!
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Some useful info re: caseta repeaters here:
As already mentioned, RadioRA 2 and caseta are very different systems despite both using the same ClearConnect wireless protocol, and picos that work with either system.
Having recently moved from an apartment I outfitted with caseta myself to a house that I had a pro RadioRA 2 installation done, I can only second what @bravenel said re: picos, seetouch keypads and virtual buttons. They become even more useful when most or all the automation logic is shifted from the Lutron Essentials software to Hubitat.
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