Lutron motion sensor

Didn't say I was offended. Just found it funny is all.

I'm pretty sure you know that no one has to wonder if I'm offended by something. :wink:

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Ryan,

I think you're right. I pulled this article right from Lutron. Note "Freestanding".

http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Company-Info/Pages/News/Media-PressCenter/PressReleases/PressReleaseDetail.aspx?prid=796

In this context I believe it means it doesn't have to be mounted to a wall.

so you can mount it to a wall or corner or place it freestanding on a flat surface.

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Uh, got'cha...

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Correct. I do this (associate a Pico directly with a switch or dimmer) with my three-way setups so I can be sure they will work even if Hubitat were to be down (not that that happens . . .).

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Well I just got off the phone with Lutron Tech support. I also have two emails out asking for more information.

I've been told that they think we'll be able to see the state changes over telnet, but she cannot give me a concreate answer yet. I'm told their tech support staff doesn't even have their hands on any yet.

If I do get a reply to one of my emails with an answer, I will let everyone know.

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http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Company-Info/Pages/News/Media-PressCenter/PressReleases/PressReleaseDetail.aspx?prid=796

Well, you won't be able to buy them until February. So, we have plenty of time.

Got an email back stating that their unable to provide more information. They said in coming weeks they will know.

http://business.lutron.info/webmail/119222/978847061/2b011ea704a9d08440dcb021977a9931895a65a3e6daaba78d645f8c147ebe93

Lutron sent me over the spec sheet.

I can’t attach PDFs here so I did a copy and paste.

Caséta Wireless
Motion Sensor
3691125a 1 09.05.19
Caséta Wireless Motion Sensor
Lutron Caséta occupancy and vacancy sensors are wireless, battery-powered, passive infrared (PIR) sensors that automatically control lights via RF communication to compatible dimming or switching devices. These sensors detect the heat from people moving within an area to determine when the space is occupied. The sensors then wirelessly transmit the appropriate commands to the associated dimming or switching devices to turn the lights on or off automatically. They combine both convenience and exceptional energy savings along with ease of installation.
Features
• Wireless motion sensor has two settings available: Auto- On/Auto-Off, and Manual-On/Auto-Off
• Vacancy model meets CA Title 24 requirements
• Passive infrared motion detection with exclusive Lutron XCT Technology for fine motion detection
• 180° field of view:
– Minor motion = 15 x 2 x 35 = 1050 ft2 (97.5 m2)
– Major motion = 20 x 2 x 45 = 1800 ft2 (167.2 m2)
• Simple and intuitive adjustments available for Timeout, Activity, and Auto-On settings
• Accessible test buttons make setup easy
• Lens illuminates during test mode to verify ideal locations
• Multiple sensors can be added for extended coverage; refer
to product specification submittal of receiving device to determine system limits
• 10-year battery life design
• RoHS compliant
Compatible RF Devices
• For use with Lutron Caséta products only
Models Available
• PD-OSENS • PD-VSENS
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Sensor Type
O = Occupancy/Vacancy (Auto-On/Auto-Off) V = Vacancy (Manual-On/Auto-Off)
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Caséta Wireless
Motion Sensor
3691125a 2 09.05.19
Specifications
Regulatory Approvals
• cULusR listed
• FCC certified
• IC certified
• IFT certified
• Meets CA (U.S.A.) Energy Commission
Title 24 requirements
Power/Performance
• Operating voltage: 3 V-
• Operating current: 14 μA nominal
• Requires one CR 123 lithium battery
• 10-year battery-life design
• Non-volatile memory (saved changes are stored during
power loss)
Environment
• Temperature: 32 °F to 104 °F (0 °C to 40 °C)
• For indoor use only
• Relative humidity: less than 90% non-condensing
Note: For unconditioned environments where the air temperature may approach the temperature of the occupants, additional sensors will be needed to achieve the same coverage. This is true of any sensor that relies exclusively on passive infrared technology.
Warranty
• 1-Year Limited Warranty. For additional Warranty information, please visit www.casetawireless.com/warranty
RF Range
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• Distance between local load controls and sensor should not exceed 60 ft (18 m) line-of-sight or 30 ft (9 m) through walls.
Sensor Coverage Test
• Dedicated test button
• Lens illuminates orange in response to motion during test mode
Wireless Communication Test
• Dedicated test button
• Turn associated loads on and off
Timeout Options
• 5 minutes
• 15 minutes (default setting) • 30 minutes
Auto-On Options (Occupancy Versions Only)
• Enabled: Sensor turns lights ON and OFF automatically (default setting)
• Disabled*: Lights must be turned ON manually from dimming or switching device. Sensor turns lights OFF automatically
• Pets: Pets transmit heat and may activate sensor. It is recommended to disable Auto-On.
• Bedroom: If placing sensor in bedroom, it is recommended to disable Auto-On.
• Off While Occupied: When the load control is manually turned OFF, the sensor will not turn the lights back ON automatically while the room is occupied. Once the room is vacated, the sensor returns back to normal operation after the timeout period has expired.
Example: Watching a movie.
Sensitivity Options
• Low Activity: (default setting) • Medium Activity:
• High Activity:

  • There is a 15-second grace period that begins when the lights are automatically turned off, during which the lights will automatically turn back on in response to motion. This grace period is provided as a safety and convenience feature in the event the lights turn off while the room is still occupied, so that the user does not need to manually turn the lights back on. After 15 seconds, the grace period expires and the lights must be manually turned on.
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Caséta Wireless
Motion Sensor
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Installation Overview Sensor Setup
• For more information, please see the Caséta Motion Sensor Quick-Start Guide (P/N 0301931) at www.lutron.com.
Sensor Placement
• The mounting height of the sensor should be between 6 ft and 8 ft (1.6 m and 2.4 m).
• For smaller rooms, detection may be improved by placing the sensor between 3 ft and 6 ft (0.91 m and 1.8 m) from the floor.
• The ability to detect motion requires that the sensor have line-of-sight of all room occupants. The sensor must have an unobstructed view of the room. DO NOT place behind or near tall cabinets, shelves, hanging fixtures, or anything that may obstruct the sensor’s view. The sensor cannot detect occupants through glass objects such as patio or shower doors.
• Hot objects and moving air currents can affect the performance of the sensor. To ensure proper operation, the sensor should be mounted at least 4 ft (1.2 m) away from light bulbs and HVAC vents.
• The performance of the sensor depends on a temperature differential between the ambient room temperature and that of room occupants. Warmer rooms may reduce the sensor’s ability to detect occupants.
• Distance between local load controls and sensor should not exceed 60 ft (18 m) line-of-sight or 30 ft (9 m) through walls.
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Motion Sensor
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Mounting
• The flat wall-mount, mounts directly to wall with mounting bracket (included). See Figure A.
• The corner-mount can be used to mount in a corner or on a wall offset from a corner (included). See Figure B.
– Temporary mounting is recommended to test sensor coverage and wireless communication before permanently installing the sensor.
∙ Temporary mounting: A 3MT CommandT adhesive
strip is provided for temporarily mounting and testing the sensor. This strip is designed for easy, damage-free removal and is not reusable.
∙ Permanent mounting: Mounting bracket, screws, and anchors are provided to mount the sensor.
Figure A. Flat Wall-Mount
Mounting Bracket
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Figure B. Corner-Mount
Mounting Bracket

Caséta Wireless Motion Sensor
3691125a 5 09.05.19
Dimensions
4.35 in (110 mm)
1.8 in (46 mm)
1.35 in (34 mm)
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Caséta Wireless
Motion Sensor
3691125a 6 09.05.19
Sensor Coverage Tested Coverage Area
Major motion coverage: 20 X 2 X 45 = 1800 ft2 (167.2 m2) Minor motion coverage: 15 X 2 X 35 = 1050 ft2 (97.5 m2)
20 ft (6.1 m)
15 ft (4.6 m)
35 ft (10.7 m)
45 ft (15.2 m)
)Lutron, Lutron, Caséta and XCT are trademarks or registered trademarks of Lutron Electronics Co., Inc. in the US and/or other countries. 3M and Command are trademarks of 3M Company.
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I’m not happy about the time out options... the minimum setting is 5 mins.

Interesting. The RA2 sensors look identical and let you configure down to 1 minute (a somewhat hidden option as there's no light on the device for it, but it's documented). This whole thing looks like an RA2 wall mount sensor that they apparently created separate firmware for so it will only work with Caséta, meaning you'd have to buy all new if you upgrade to RA2 because ... Lutron.

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Oh better yet guys.

Check this out.

It appears that, like a Pico, you can associate directly to a Lutron device OR pair it with the Lutron Hub. That opens the possibility that it might be exposed to the integration interface . . . I hope so!

If you can pair it to the hub, I'm pretty sure it will be advertised over Telnet. But 5 mins for sensor timeout? That's a bit of a deal breaker for me. I frequently turn lights off manually early. Having only a 30 timeout means that the automation re-enables itself once motion goes inactive. Meaning that I can re-enter a room about 30 seconds after turning the lights off and they will come back on. I wouldn't be able to do that for 5 minutes with these sensors. Definitely a little surprised by that. No wonder they get 10 years of battery life.

My thoughts too.

I’m disappointed with that. Do the ra2 sensors show in their spec sheets 1 minute options?

*** ra2 shows 1 min options ***

Doesn’t this state 1 min options? The other languages below show this.

Tiempo de espera):
“Activity” (Actividad):
El sensor apagará las luces si no hubiera movimiento durante la duración del período de espera. Las configuraciones de tiempo de espera disponibles son: 1, 5, 15 y 30 minutos.
(Predeterminado: 15 minutos)
La sensibilidad del sensor puede ser

How do you set 1 minute. You said it’s hidden ?

Like so: https://youtu.be/nkO8oXW0Sac

However, this is in the manual for the RA2 sensors. I do not see it in the manual for the Caséta sensor, so my assumption is that it won't work with these.