Lights not turning off

[user1689]

I have a basic rule with this logic
When Time of Day is 8:00 PM ...
Dim LR Ceiling Lights Dimmer, Stair Dimmer to 40
Dim Kitchen Island Lights, DR Track Lights Dimmer to 10
Dim Deck Lights to 25
Wait until Motion Sensor 1 (Kitchen) motion stops and stays inactive for 15 minutes, then ...
Turn off Kitchen Sink Lights, Kitchen Work Lights Switch

The issue is that the last line never happens. Even after an hour with no motion in the kitchen area. What am I doing wrong? Is there a better way to do this? I've tried set it up as a separate rule but that doesn't seem to work either. The motion sensor is Third Reality, the switches are GE.

[bobbyD]

@user1689

What am I doing wrong?

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[user1689]

Thanks, I'll check that out.

[tray_e]

Is the motion sensor ALWAYS active at 8:00 PM? I am thinking a motion sensor has to be active in order for it to "stop and stay inactive". So, if it is not active when triggered, the wait for never happens?

[user1689]

Generally yes, but that's a good point. I'll check the logs that I'm learning to use and understand.

Thanks.

[user1689]

So I've got the lights working the way I want them to. Both comments were very helpful. I've learned how useful the logs can be as well as the event histories. I discovered two things that seem to be affecting my app. One, the motion sensors field included a ceiling fan that runs 24x7. The log indicated that motion was never inactive long enough to trigger the lights. So I moved the sensor. Second, the app that turns on the lights was using restricted hours. Those hours overlapped with the timing of the app that dims and turns the lights off. Once I edited the hours to stop the overlap everything has been working fine.

Thanks for the help.

[danabw]

@user1689

I've learned how useful the logs can be as well as the event histories.

So true, most of of the issues that come up can be figured out via logs/event history. The recently added ability to filter the logs view by devices and/or apps really makes them easy to use.

@user1689

Once I edited the hours to stop the overlap everything has been working fine.

I feel you. In my case, the % of my problems that turn out to be ones I caused is an embarrassment of riches. See my mea culpa post here.

Correcting the title of some of my ancestors

I've decided to come clean and update the misleading titles of a few of my threads: Lights go on and off by themselves -- I set up a rule and then forgot about it Every time I turn on a light it turns off immediately for no reason -- Creating conflicting automations on two different hubs is a bad idea Big Z-Wave slow-downs, nothing changed This is so annoying! -- My son unplugged a repeater to plug in his phone charger There, I feel much better now.