Wondering if I can integrate this WNRL50WH dimmer into my Hubitat network without purchasing the Radiant Smart Gateway. Dos anyone know? Legrand says it’s required. But I thought I would check if anyone from this community has had success without one.
Edit: I found this video that shows how you can manually pair any “Legrand with Netatmo” device with to a Zigbee hub, like HA, without a cloud gateway. Perhaps this would also work with Hubitat.
It looks like those use a proprietary Zigbee variant, so they only connect to their hub. If you need a Netatmo gateway, apparently it would need to be a cloud device brought back into Hubitat.
"Legrand offers local APIs for certain systems, specifically through their Open Web Net protocol for the MyHome system. However, the modern "with Netatmo" gateways predominantly use a cloud-based API"
Then there is this, if you have a C8 Pro:
"HomeKit Integration: Devices using the Netatmo integration do work locally if integrated into Apple HomeKit, as HomeKit communication occurs locally, but this is a function of the HomeKit framework, not a general-purpose Legrand local API for third parties."
There are Netatmo integrations here in the community, but they all seem to refer to weather stations.
Edited my original post to include a link to a YT video that shows a guy manually pairing to HA without a Legrand Gateway.
" Pairing Legrand with Netatmo dimmers to Home Assistant is primarily achieved via the Netatmo integration for cloud-based control or by adding them as HomeKit devices for local, faster response."
So I think a C8 Pro can use them locally through HomeKit. Else, you will need a cloud integration, which I'm not sure exists in the Hubitat Community, except for those Netatmo Weather stations. That driver may be almost there, though, as far as authorizations.
You can spin up HA if you have an old PI laying around, and bring that integration into Hubitat with the HA Device Bridge Community app (HADB).
You can also try getting AI to write you an integration. Point it to the HA cloud integration, and see if it can make a Hubitat version out of it.
I use legrand netatmo duplex outlets paired to Hubitat directly. I have not tried a dimmer.
I say give it a try. We'd like to know.
Same here, model WNRR15WH paired to my hub as a generic zigbee outlet and has been working fine for a year or two.
I’m wondering how you determined this?
I asked Google.
"AI Overview
Legrand dimmer devices with Netatmo use Zigbee 3.0 to connect to the smart hub (gateway), creating a robust, dedicated mesh network. While the physical layer is standardized Zigbee, the devices often employ proprietary configurations or clusters (such as Zigbee Green Power), requiring them to be paired with the Legrand Home + Control app"
That response sounds kind of generic and I wouldn’t assume that it’s correct with respect to this device, without further verification.
You can ask in in many ways, you get the same answer.
AI Overview
Legrand smart dimmer switches, particularly those in the Adorne with Netatmo and Radiant with Netatmo lines, primarily use a proprietary, Zigbee-based mesh networking protocol
I doubt it’s completely hallucinating that, but I’m not sure it clarifies any further whether the model the OP has will work with Hubitat.
Only thing we know for sure is that two of us are using a receptacle from the same product line (mine is WNRR15WH) paired as zigbee devices without issue.
I agree that if the OP has the dimmer already, might as well see if it’ll pair and operate as expected.
This has relevance to @rlithgow1's recent post...
Both Grok and Claude provided Zigbe2MQTT links for the device using:
"Can legrand netatmo WNRL50WH dimmer be added to a generic Zigbee network? No guessing, provide real sources."
The OP video shows Z2M pairing in HA en français. So it should be possible in Hubitat even if it requires a driver. And since Z2M is available an AI driver should also be pretty quick to set up.
OK, Google is starting to come around. It still doesn't seem to say it would connect to Hubitat directly, but if it does, Hubitat Zigbee must have something similar to Zigbee2MQTT to identify the non-standard clusters?
AI Overview:
Legrand's Zigbee devices are not strictly proprietary in the sense of using a completely closed, non-standard radio protocol; rather, they are certified Zigbee 3.0 devices that often use standard Zigbee clusters alongside specialized, manufacturer-specific configurations (or "quirks")
Legrand Zigbee devices are not strictly "proprietary" in the sense that they use a non-standard radio frequency. Rather, Legrand Netatmo-based devices (often under the "With Netatmo" or "Eliot" program) use a custom implementation of standard Zigbee 3.0/Green Power protocols.
They connect to Zigbee2MQTT not because they are open-standard, but because the community behind Zigbee2MQTT has reverse-engineered their specific manufacturer-specific "clusters" and "profiles" to make them work
What a bunch of swirl. Just buy one and try it with Hubitat.
Even better, I found a brand new radiant smart gateway on eBay for only $30 so ordered it.
Cool, now you can try both ways.
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