Large number of route Changes

Yesterday I noticed my C8 PRO 2.4.3.177 was a bit sluggish. Several devices seemed to not be in states they should have been at certain times (based on time triggers). Anyway, to try and resolve that I first just did a reboot. That didn't seem to help. Next a reboot and rebuild database. Still seemed the same. (Example: Clicking ON on the device page of devices would take from 3 to 50 seconds to actually turn ON). Next a shut down, unplug for a few minutes and restart. Still seemed about the same. As it was late, I just called it a day, clicked on my "GOOD NIGHT" routine.... most of the lights etc. turned OFF, but not all. Turned OFF the remaining devices manually...

Today, things seem to be normal. While looking around under the hood, I did a refresh statistics then refresh page today. Everything looked "okay", but these devices caught my attention. They are in a building about 150 feet from the hub with a repeater about half way (which I have really never noticed them going through). I don't have any problems with them that I know of, but the devices in red have very high CHANGES. The device in green has none. All 4 are in the same building about 3 feet apart. 77 changes with 9 neighbors seems to indicate a lot of bouncing around... Thoughts???

The three switches show a strong connection but the route changes do look quite high.

Are all four switches the same device? What are they (brand/model)?.

Neither of these types of reboots will help directly with radio issues, which your symptoms may indicate. To clear your Z-Wave or Zigbee radios you need to shut down, pull power, wait 30s, then restore power. If that helps (and usually does) that means your Z-Wave radio/some devices got into a bad connection state. After the reboot you can keep an eye on things and see what kinds of routes the switches take and if they continue to have response issues and high route changes.

If the shut down/reboot doesn't resolve issues you can try a "Rebuild route" on each of the switches w/the high route changes and see if that helps.

“Refresh” after each rebuild completes to see how it worked.

Forgot to ask...can I have some fresh eggs? :wink:

1 Zooz Zen 71

1 Minoston Outlet (Outdoor smart Plug MP22Z)

1 Leviton DZPA1-15A Smart Plug

1 GE Outdoor Smart Switch ZW4201

Did that as step 3 above. The refresh screenshot above was today, after those 3 steps yesterday.

This was after the reboot...

Will give it a try...

Will add to the process...

Absolutely, as you can see.... they are smart hens. I'm working on a project so they come out already scrambled or fried!! :grin:

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Ah, OK, so that's not so good. Just curious, how long after the shut-down/reboot was the screen shot taken?

Have to see how the rebuilds affect things...you might end up needing additional repeaters for the three devices if they continue to change routes at a high rate and don't have good performance.

Maybe teaching them how to UPS stuff to me would be a fun project? :wink:

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Did those steps last night around 8/9 PM. Those were from today, about 12/13 hours later.

Working on it... Keep in mind.... over a period of months, I have moved the 2 repeaters and left them for a couple of months. Those far devices have never gone through them even if I put them withing 10 feet of the coop. I've really never had any issues with those devices, it's just the high number of changes caught my attention today. If I click a button I can watch it work nearly instantly on a camera up there. The changes are puzzling as I've never seen that before...

BEFORE:


REBUILD:

THEN:

AFTER REFRESH:

AFTER REFRESH STATISTICS:
30 SECONDS REFRESH PAGE:

We started with 87 changes, now 91. :thinking:


Up to 105 changes.... :worried:

Large number of route changes usually indicates the device isn't happy w/the routes it has availble to it. Given the connection speeds are 100, seems a little odd.

The most important part:

If above is still true I'd move on and not worry about it. :slight_smile:

I guess.... LOL

By the way--- in the last 15 minutes, I shut down for 10 minutes. Restarted and I now have 0 route changes for those devices.... :thinking:

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You might try adding another Z-wave repeater/range extender at your chicken coop. Try to locate the extender in direct line of sight with the repeater in your home. If necessary, you can use an extension cord to move it away from the outlet and locate it near the roof of the coop. That way, the two repeaters should be able to establish a solid connection and the other devices in the coop should be able to establish a solid connection with the repeater in the coop.

Best wishes!

I did that originally. I put a Z-Wave repeater in the greenhouse that is 12 feet from the coop. High up with no restrictions. I watched them for about a month. It didn't appear that any device in the coop ever routed through the repeater. Them seem to want to go straight to the hub even though they might have a 40kbps signal when the repeater has 100.... :man_shrugging: I've tried various locations over the last year. Currently a repeater is outside in an all weather receptacle cover and another inside but I rarely see any logs showing they get any use....

When I had a C7 hub, I needed Z-wave repeaters to connect to devices far from the hub. Once I upgraded to the C8 Pro nearly everything goes direct.

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Advice w/repeaters has been to bias them closer to the hub than to the device you want them to use. So maybe put the repeater(s) between 1/3 and 1/2 way from the hub to the devices. So if you do want to play w/repeaters maybe try that approach, and do a rebuild on the device(s) you'd like to get to use the repeater. That said, I've had similar situations where devices stubbornly do what they want to do, regardless of my desires. :wink:

But as noted above, it doesn't sound like you have a problem to solve...maybe have to let the OCD go: :wink: :smiley:

:flushed: :rofl:

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