Just got my HE and having some issues with setting automation rules, possibly just not understanding the options

[mike.tauler]

I am migrating from ST to HE and I just got all my LIFX bulbs into the system, so I figured I would build a few of my simple rules to control them

Reading through posts here I noticed that it can be helpful to supply this information:

Hubitat Elevation® Platform Version: 2.2.4.156

Hardware Version: Rev C-7

I setup mode manager to switch to "Day" at 7:00 AM (this works!)

I then took my front and back porch LIFX lights and put them into a group called "Outside group" (there are two bulbs in this group an nothing else)

Then built a rule using "motion and mode lighting apps" to turn off those lights when mode changes to day

Structure of the rule is as follows:

Name : Getting bright
Lights to turn on or off:
   Set these dimmers per mode: [nothing]
   Set color Temperature per mode for these bulbs: [nothing]
   Set color per mode for these bulbs: [nothing]
   Push button per mode: [nothing]
   Turn on switches per mode: [nothing]
   turn off switches per mode: Outside group
   > Select modes: Day
Options for lights on: [nothing set in this category]
Options for lights off: [nothing set for this category] 

I can turn off both lights when I click the group in my dashboard, but the automation is not turning the lights off when the mode changes to day.

Am I misunderstanding what the settings I have chosen are used for?

[mark.cockcroft]

Mode lighting won't turn things off.
Use simple automation app

[mike.tauler]

Thanks for the pointer! ill take a look at simple lighting

[danabw]

As @mark.cockcroft says, mode settings in the Motion and Mode Lighthing can change dim levels and other parameters, but can't turn things on/off w/Mode settings. I know it seems odd, but that's how it works.

[mike.tauler]

Simple automation did not work either

[mark.cockcroft]

Its event base system, did it not work when change, ie chang mode to day then back to evening

[neonturbo]

Maybe relevant?

Groups with switches don't turn on by setting level

I have a group called "Inside Christmas". This group currently has two outlets on it, set up using "Groups and Scenes" app. I have a simple automation rule set up that fails to turn on those lights when addressed as a group but succeeds when they are targeted as individual outlets. Are there known bugs that would cause this?

[mike.tauler]

correct, it did not work when the system changed from day to evening

Edit: update, the outside lights did turn off this morning, So I am now guessing that nesting groups is the issue with the above screenshot rule, an anyone confirm that nesting groups does not work well?

[mike.tauler]

I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but the rule i posted a screenshot of has nested groups, is that an issue?

Example, the "living room group" is mage up of two groups "living room fan group" and "Living room lamps group

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