Is this a ghost?

[JKB121]

I'm looking at the logs on the Z-Wave Details page.

Are the devices without a number ghosts? I don't see any ghosts on the details page...

[Rxich]

I don't think so. look at the Z-wave table and look for entries with a blank route , but that is very odd that the dev# is missing

[JKB121]

I did, there are no ghosts in the table. This just doesn't look right.

[JKB121]

I just cleared the page and the first one that popped up is Attic Fan. But no Dev #

The other thing I noticed is the route change is TRUE. I wonder if this shows up this way for that message....

[danabw]

Hate to say it, but I'd try the reboot w/shutdown dance...

[JKB121]

Yep- I did. Seems other thing went away. I did notice after restart 1 thing... there are a few log entries that show Dev: with no number. One thing in common... They all have route change true in the log. Is that a clue??

[tray_e]

What opens when you click the "info" button?

[JKB121]

[tray_e]

So, to see if you have a ghost, you go to the Zwave details and look for a device as described here.

@danabw

Ghost devices typically appear in the Z-Wave Details table with no device listed (or a Discover button) and often times no routing information in the Route column - looking something like below. Note that the last field in the row below is completely empty, shows no routing for the device, but sometimes a ghost will have a suck route that never goes away. Below are a couple of examples:

Did you recently delete any devices? Or try to add a zwave device and it did not take the first time?

[JKB121]

I don't have an obvious ghost there. That's where I started yesterday... the entire message in the logs on the z-wave details page is this:

dev:2026-02-10 08:28:48.543 AM

info

seqNo: 107, routeChanged: false, transmissionTime: 1ms, repeaters: None, speed: 100 kbs, rssi: [-81 dBm, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A], Ack channel: 0, Transmit channel: 0

What ever it is, except for not having a device ID, everything else looks good. LOL

I'm going to try going into past logs and see if anything happened at exactly 2026-02-10 08:28:48.543 AM

[tray_e]

@tray_e

Did you recently delete any devices? Or try to add a zwave device and it did not take the first time?

You have a screenshot of the device list? Not the logs, but the actual device list in the Zwave settings page?

[JKB121]

Nothing obvious there. But... I did notice something that might be a clue. The line in the logs without a number seems to be routing through [0x38]. At least every now and then. dev: 2026-02-10 09:17:23.143 AM info seqNo: 130, routeChanged: true, transmissionTime: 7ms, repeaters: [0x38], speed: 40 kbs, rssi: [-89 dBm, N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A], Ack channel: 1, Transmit channel: 1

[tray_e]

Not seeing anything obvious. The only thing I can think is if you added/replaced/removed a device recently.

[JKB121]

Nope... The only thing I'm thinking now is maybe a spare contact sensor that I didn't take the battery out of might be sending a heartbeat once and a while. Reason I say that is I just found a magnet for a sensor, but no sensor. Possible 3 year old grandson found it interesting. I have a few that were part of a SmartThings system that have not been used in a couple of years..... Never included in the Hubitat system... I don't know if a C-8 PRO would be sensitive enough to pick that up....