There may have been other reports of these devices spamming the z-wave network. @csteele, @dennypage - is this something either of you have any experience with?
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I don't have a MultiSensor 7.. mine are all 6's AND I do have a couple of the TriSensor 7's. I'm waiting for the COVID premium $$ adder to dissipate before I give one a try. 
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They didnāt use to spam the network. May be the newer firmware. Iām going to roll them back but it takes me time because I have to pull them down from their ceiling mount, unpair and then reset flash, the repairā¦ and of course modify all my rules to add virtual devices in their place while I do so. Itās a process.
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I just got off work and the wife wants to do some errands tonight. Iāll likely work on this later tonight. Iāll post more details in a day or two with an update.
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Thanks for all your insight and responses. I truly love my hubitat hubs and the community surrounding them.
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Sure is. And one reason I live by the motto, "Don't fix what ain't broke" 
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I've had a lot of temperature sensors, but as far as I recall the Aeotec Multisensor has not been among them...
That said, the pattern of the log messages looks kinda like what happens when a unit drops into discovery mode, sending a bunch of repeat requests because it isn't getting an ack. Are you seeing lots of route changes by chance?
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I would just knock them offline for a little bit to see if that helps before you mess around with them too much.
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I would not discourage you from doing that process BUT if it were me, I'd just pull them down, use SOMETHING ELSE to Exclude them (thus leaving them intact on the Hub) then do a Replace when you want them back.
I have an Aeotec Z-Stick that I use as my 'something else' even though I have 5 other hubs powered up that could do it too. The Z-Stick is just too convenient in my situation.
You can test it out by doing the 'modify all rules' step but NOT exclude it yet. Go ahead and use something else to exclude it and then just try to Replace it back. If that process works for you like it does for me, you can save a few minutes. The climb up to the ceiling mounts dominates the Labor, so I'm not sure saving 2 mins per device is even noticeable.
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Yeah I have a z stick as well. I pull them down and connect them to my zstick thatās a foot away so I can firmware update them and not brick them. This process works for me. But thank you for the suggestion.
I unplugged all the MultiSensor from power for about 10 minutes as well as powered down the ZWave hub for same time while I pulled the spa yard gate device inside and removed the batteries for about 5 minutes while I found and replaced them with brand new batteries and then placed it back in its spot. I powered up the hub and added both ZWave extenders giving me a total of 4 extenders throughout my 1300sq ft Bi-Level. I powered back down and waited 5 minutes before powering back up. I have removed the MultiSensor from my rules in prep for removing them and flashing firmware but want to let the hub sit overnight before I do that. The wife is out of town tomorrow night so Iāll have more free time to pull sensors down and firmware flash and readd. I also have two more multi sensors to add that I havenāt installed yet.
So I have two peanut plugs (Aeotec Smart Switch 7) that Iām thinking I want to replace with zigbee. But I need power monitoring since one is for my sump pump and other is the washing machine. Whatās the recommended zigbee plugs with power monitoring these days?
That's a bummer the SS7s aren't working well for you -- I love the couple that I have since they are so darn customizable.
Whatever you end up considering as a replacement, verify carefully that it can handle sump pump or large appliance loads -- many (most) such plugs aren't built robustly enough to handle those motor loads safely/reliably.
The Zen15 is the usual recommendation for such loads - it's designed for them.
Thanks, I just ordered two of the Zen15 plugs. Theyāre ZWave 800 seriesā¦ sigh I should just buy a c8 pro hub to get the LR at this point.
They'll work just fine paired mesh... Unless you need to cover a longer distance or some other odd-ball positioning situation, I'd actually avoid LR for mains-powered stuff.
Not intending to complicate this any futther, but I am a huge fan of using S2 for mesh-paired z-wave devices -- it provides better error-checking for that device in the mesh, and initial concerns about S2 overly taxing mesh traffic have proven false. Food for thought.
I have a few S2 devices paired in that manner currently. My outdoor ring contact sensors being one of them. I did not however pair my 700 series Aeotec Zwave 7 extenders in that manner. Would you recommend doing so?
I don't think it would matter meaningfully for the extenders -- as I understand it, they can pass S2 traffic without being S2 themselves. But I'd be curious for one of the smarter ZW gurus around here to weigh in on that.
I now just pair everything S2 for consistency's sake, but when I decided to make that transition, I did it piecemeal over time -- I never noticed any adverse effects while I was in that process.
If you ever do get into LR, LR inherently requires S2.
Just a small update from this weekendā¦
I pulled all my MS7 down and reflashed from FW v1.6.7 back to FW v1.3.7, factory reset, and readded back to the hub.
Removed the Aeotec Smart Switch 7 plugs (which were paired S2) all together and replaced with Zooz ZEN15 (800 series) power plugs but paired then unsecured. After all that was done, I shut down the hub, pulled power for 1 minute, then powered up the hub last night.
@jtp10181 wanted your thoughts on how things are looking now?
Thanks!
Looks better but how long since reboot? Need to be running 12-24 hours to get a good picture since the stats reset with a reboot.
Wow!
Someone (a lot smarter than me), once told me to look at the RTT Avg column.
Anything greater than 50 (or so), is pointing to a major issue.
The first time you posted, there were 13/19 devices in that predicament.
The last one you posted, there were 0/19 devices in that predicament.
That's a big change....
