Inovelli Dimmer Stays on

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 5:04pm

Hello All,

I have an LZW31-SN setup in a 4 way situation. The other 3 are GE add on switches.

All worked flawlessly for quite some time then out of the blue the light that the switch's are attached to stays on all the time. None of the switches can turn it of. If you go to the dimmer it appears to operate fine (Light on dimmer goes up and down when pressed) but it does not turn off the lights. I have done a reset, Excluded and included but to no avail. It appears to me the switch is in a permanent on position.

I have upgraded firmware through Hubitat (All went well it said 100%) but the firmware still stays at 1.48 Target 0 and 1.44 Target 1.

I have replaced that switch with another LZW31-SN and it happened within 2 weeks.

Can anyone shed some light on this situation?

bertabcd1234 · July 4, 2021, 5:17pm

Do you have either the "smart bulb mode" parameter (#52) or maybe local protection enabled (though that doesn't really sound like your problem since it still appears to respond)? Depending on what driver you're using and what firmware the dimmer is on, you may have different possibilities here, but with firmware 1.47+, you should have all of these available. I would set parameter 52 to 0 or "disabled," which Inovelli's driver should let you do, or you could use the Basic Z-Wave Tool (or switch to either driver temporarily and then back to whatever you were using). If it already says it is, try changing it to something else and back--sometimes there's odd behavior when new parameters get added in terms of default/initial values.

Regarding the firmware version, I'd be curious what the Device Firmware Updater app reports as the version. I wouldn't trust everything you see in "Device Data," since there is no standard for firmware version there (though a few conventions) and devices may not always re-check it (and if so, how is not standardized, but maybe a "configure" or "refresh")--just in case that is where you were looking.

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 5:35pm

I checked (#52) and made sure it was set to disabled. I have tried selecting the standard Inovelli Dimmer and Generic Zwave Dimmer to no avail.

Although once I changed the (#52) parameter the firmware did show correctly as 1.57.

Anything else you can think of?

Thanks for your time.

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 5:58pm

Ok, If I switch (#22) to 3 way toggle I can get it to "Function" and can get the GE add on switch's to work as expected but the Dimmer does not work as expected.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

bertabcd1234 · July 4, 2021, 6:36pm

To be clear, this is the actual dimmer paddle itself that isn't working as expected, not (just?) the aux? I'd verify that all the other parameters look right, but the smart bulb mode one (the earliest implementation of which would have kept the dimmer at full output when on) is my best guess, so I'm not sure what exactly what anymore....

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 6:52pm

Overview:

Dimmer and GE Add on switches worked well for quite some time. Out of the blue the lights that the switch was attached to (Recessed cans) stayed on and could not be turned off by any switch what so ever. I could only power off at the breaker.

If i switched to (3 way toggle) instead of (3 Way momentary) the GE Add on switch's worked but the Inovelli Dimmer does not.

Also I am trying to attach a jpg of my "State" section and the forum says you cant. is there a way to do that?

The dimmer state section looks like my other dimmers except (bin -1) I dont know what this is. Let me know what you think

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 6:53pm

State Variables

parameter2value : 101
parameter5value : 1
parameter21value : 1
actualAssociation4 : []
actualAssociation3 : []
parameter10value : 0
bin : -1
parameter8value : 0
oldLabel : Main Hall
parameter19value : 3600
parameter13value : 170
holding : false
rfProtectionState : 0
parameter22value : 2
lastRan : 1625423559485
parameter3value : 101
parameter52value : 0
parameter9value : 0
parameter6value : 99
parameter17value : 3
localProtectionState : 0
parameter14value : 5
parameter50value : 5
parameter11value : 0
associationGroups : 4
parameter51value : 0
parameter7value : 0
parameter15value : 1
polled : 0
parameter4value : 101
parameter18value : 10
needfwUpdate : false
defaultG3 : []
actualAssociation2 : []
parameter1value : 0
defaultG2 : []
actualAssociation1 : [01]
defaultG1 : [01]
parameter12value : 2
parameter20value : 10

bertabcd1234 · July 4, 2021, 6:57pm

Random thought: is it possible the dimmer "crashed" and that it would work again after you reboot it? Pulling the air gap forma few seconds before pushing it back in should work, unless you have it hardwired on (by accident or not), in which case I suppose you'd need to use the circuit breaker.

In general, I wouldn't worry about the internal "State Variables" you see on the device page, which are generally only of use to the developer (though Inovelli's driver does expose last known parameter values here, perhaps for ease of visibility). I don't believe they use bin, which I've only seen in Hubitat's built-in drivers (can't remember the purpose, maybe tracking physical vs. digital events?).

ycfairbecks · July 4, 2021, 7:10pm

Yea I gave that a shot no luck. Thanks for your time