I bit the bullet

Well i finally decided to jump ftom my ST to HE. So when it gets here..after i get it powered up and registered what would be the best migration path?

  1. Turn off the ST and re-pair everything to HE

  2. Leave ST running and unpair each lite individually then repair them to HE as i do that

My present system consist of the folliwing:

2 zwave bulbs
8 zigbee bulbs of various makes
2 zigbee wall plugs-repeaters
3 zigbee door sensors
1 old tapt switch from the wink days(controls front porch lites)
1 zigbee motion sensor again from wink days located in mailbox to know when mailman has come

Not being controled but on hand
Alexa
Harmony hub
Roku
Samsung tv
Samsung audio
Tivo
House is a mix of wifi6 and cat6 ethernet

No complicated routines just normally on off

Have watched all the instructions here and read tol my eyeballs are falling out.

I have a few places i want to automate later and think i want to stick with zigbee as my main protocol.

Now tell me what you all think

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I'd suggest a hybrid approach. I'd pick a device or two and migrate them. This will allow you to become familiar with the differences of Hubitat and the similarities.

And you can do it two or three times if you wish without it taking hours to redo. Then when you're comfortable, I'd pull power on ST and migrate everything over.

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@user2565 Start with reading this first....

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@user2565 One thing though is you have very few of each type of device. That "can" make for a weak mesh...Be aware you may want to get some repeaters of both types in there to strengthen it.

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These may all prove to be less than ideal with a local only hub.
GE bulbs are not well regarded for use on HE (hmm as are most of the GE/Wink products) I have a couple on my Hue bridge and they're working fine.
Tapt switches will work, sort of, need to be polled for physical events.
I believe you mentioned on another thread you have some Sylvania products, also mixed results. One version of the plug worked much worse for me than the other.

As for the rest, if you can supply exact models someone will have some experience with them.

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I have to admit thst most of my stuff is probably very outdated. Heck i found an old zwave 1 switch today. Brand new in box. Says net speed is 9600. Bulbs are cree, ge link(says wink), the 2 zwave bulbs are labeled nutone. BUT they are all still working and all i am looking for is a hub with no dependencies and that work. If i start having issues i can get some of the newer items. Replacing 7. Or so bulbs won't send me to the poor house heck i could probably buy new everything for less than $200. And may have to...will let you know how it goes hub should be here this week

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If you end up buying new devices, check out List of Compatible Devices | Hubitat Documentation . Other devices may or may not work (many do) but these have been verified by Hubitat staff as working with the built-in drivers.

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The alternative is to set up a Hue Bridge ($40ish for used) that will run locally and natively to control your ZigBee bulbs.

Ummm, at least for the GE bulbs, not sure about the Cree. :thinking:

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Or another hub, the key thing is you don't want crappy devices causing problems for good stuff. A lot of old LL lamps fall into crappy territory. Since they have been on their own hub they work reliably as do the rest of my device on the other hub.

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The z-wave ones are best if you go through their exclusion process while they are still connected to the ST hub. Zigbee ones are usually happy to connect to any hub once their usual one is no longer talking to them.

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Add to that Innr bulbs are cheaper than Hue, and compatible with the Hue hub, or can be paired directly to Hubitat. Both work equally well. Those Innr bulbs are zigbee 3.0, and are by far the best bulbs I've used.

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The best path for you depends on your use cases, time availability, and tolerance for disruption.

When I went through this a few years ago, my approach was to first setting up rules/automations using virtual devices and then migrating to the actual devices once I was sure things would work the way I wanted. (This is also a good time to consider the routines you currently have and how you might redesign the system to work better for you.)

One thing to consider (similar to the comment from @rlithgow1 ): Since most of your devices are zigbee and you only have a couple of repeaters, you may not have very good results (on either hub) if you only move some of the devices (depending on your physical layout, of course). That is, if you move the repeaters first, your bulbs may lose connectivity; if you move the bulbs first, they may not have a strong enough signal to communicated without the repeaters.

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Lifx are so much better

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I'm still considering them. After my failed shelly bulb experiment, I'm not sold on wifi bulbs.

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These are 100% local and have superior color and brightness. @bcopeland replaced every bulb in his house with them.

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still waiting on my HE to arrive. thought they might ship a bit quicker but 4 days and just an order confirmation...oh well i'll live. here's my plan what's you alls comments.

delete harmony hub from ST
remove ST from alexa
turn ST off
reset all zigbee bulbs to factory( only 8)
install HE and register
pair 2 zigbee repeaters
start adding lites closest first
check
re pair zigbee door sensors 3 each
check
re pair motion sensor
check

check operation of all so far

add zwave bulbs (2)
check

add harmony hub
check

add alexa
check

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Remember to look at my post above. How close to the hub will those z-wave bulbs be? You may want to throw a repeater in the mix (I recommend the Ring v2 Extender)

just measured and iits about 40 ft thru 2 wood stud - sheet rock walls. i do have an old zwave wall switch i can put in if i can find a switch with
a neutral. thats pretty much why i am all bulbs and not wall switches. house is about 30 yrs old.

You can always do dimmers instead as most don't require neutrals. Would be good with all the bulbs because you can use them as a button controller in smart bulb mode

let me know what type dimmers. do they not work as switches too?

my HE will be here monday

here is what i plan

delete harmony hub from ST
remove ST from alexa
turn ST off
reset all zigbee bulbs to factory
install HE and register
pair 2 zigbee repeaters
start adding lites closest first
check
re pair zigbee door sensors 3 each
check
re pair motion sensor
chevk

check operation of all so far

add zwave bulbs (2)
check

add harmony hub
check

add alexa
check

add ecobee