Huge House and Z-wave

I just transferred a house in Bahamas that is a single level massive home. I have had some issues with Z-wave and replaced the 3 hop+ devices with non-Z-wave switches. I just transferred to the new hub and when I looked at my Z-wave information, 100% of the devices are now DIRECT. I have already switched a previous hub but the home was much smaller with less Z-wave devices.

I just can not believe it. I have to give a lot of credit to the developer of this hub.

Thank you.

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The pages keeps going and going. I only posted the first page of devices.

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Something seems fishy here...why only 1 neighbor for all of these devices? Even when directly connected, they should still be able to see the other devices.

For example:

In summary, what's the furthest distance of a repeater to the hub?

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This capture is seconds after I switched from one hub to the other. The network had no time to self heal.

I do feel like your post is implying something?

Not cool

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The hub is in the center of the home so I would say 1000 feet?

In one case it is going through rebar and concrete and still worked.

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Yeah, sorry, not meant that way. I meant something fishy was going on with the report is all since it looked weird. All good.

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My apologies for the misunderstanding. When the hub switches from one to another it lacks the information for a period of time. You can do a "repair" to speed up the process, but with direct connected devices it is not really needed.

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One of the rare advantages of z-wave over zigbee. The lower radio frequency helps with going through concrete.

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It is only after this hub that I have seen it. I know the frequency of 900Mhz should do it but it never did it in the past. This is got to be more then an antenna?

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I might be wrong, but I think 800-series radio have more power as well.

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Maybe they finally fixed things in the 800 radio. I might even give security a new try (maybe).

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1000 feet!!!!
WOW! WOW! WOW!
Did you use any 800 series devices?
Or, any 700 series devices?

In the past, I have tended to assume that Zigbee would "win the race" for a number of reasons.
However, this certainly gives Zwave a rare (and HUGE) technological advantage over Zigbee.
In addition, with Hubitat being the only major player with a 800 class radio, this gives Hubitat a clear advantage in the marketplace for Zwave type devices!

In the past, I have tended to have many Zigbee devices due to the imperative of developing a strong mesh, and the ubiquitous nature of cheap Zigbee sensors. This may force me to reconsider and to search out inexpensive Zwave sensors.

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One thing to be aware of with S2... On the C7, S2 made doing device-level firmware updates (using HE's built-in updater) impossible for most of us who ever tried it. IIRC, it should work in theory, but it didn't in practical.

I don't know if that's "fixed" now with the new chip in the C8 -- I haven't seen any posts yet about someone trying it... It would be awesome if that worked on the C8 though!

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I only use only 500 series devices in this location. I have to report after the self heal one of my devices decided to hop through another so I do have one device on a single hop.

Zigbee is great and gives me almost no headaches so I am not quite there yet. It is good to have options.

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I will give it a try. Though it is not needed for me so I will only play with it.

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I am sorry that is a mistake. I should have said 200 feet. I broke out the take measure. I do not know what I was thinking.

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Last week I was unable to do device-level firmware updates from my C8 while using S2. After re-pairing without security, they all updated without issue.

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I think I will just stick to no security. It is so not needed unless maybe a lock?