How to get ZWAVE devices to turn off when instructed

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Hi

I suspect the HE Hub is running slow because of loading despite a hard reboot.

Is there a way to determine what the Hub loading is like?

I am still investigating the below...

Trying to get a rule working where it Turns off the central heating boiler when not needed.

The logs show the Rule running and sending the commands

app:6132021-11-14 18:20:00.875 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:20:00.858 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:20:00.780 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

app:6132021-11-14 18:15:00.501 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:15:00.485 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:15:00.372 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

app:6132021-11-14 18:10:00.995 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:10:00.982 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:10:00.953 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

app:6132021-11-14 18:05:00.452 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:05:00.438 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:05:00.392 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

app:6132021-11-14 18:00:01.443 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:00:01.429 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 18:00:01.399 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

app:6132021-11-14 17:55:21.343 infoAction: off() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 17:55:21.326 infoAction: off1() on Heating Boiler

app:6132021-11-14 17:55:21.304 infoBOILER ***** TURN OFF BOILER Radiators: Actions run by BOILER ***** If Heat Demand Turn ON or OFF NEW

However the Boiler Device is NOT recording that it received the instruction to shut down.

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How do I get the Rule to actually send the OFF control

It has been working for the last year but is now playing up.

Can anyone advise on debugging why it takes sending a zwave Off command 7 over 35 mins before it actually does it.

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Look under "Logs" and take a look at the "Device Stats" and "App Stats" pages. There are no hard rules, but in general, I'd say anything with a high percent of total would be a good place to start. Long runtimes ("avg ms") or lots of executions ("count") would also be good to look at. But, again, there are no hard rules here--just things you can use to make better guesses.

If you haven't used these pages before, you can use the checkboxes at the top to turn on/off certain columns. If you don't see these checkboxes, the "expand" (two arrows) icon towards the top will hide/show them. If you're on slightly old firmware, they could also be on their own pages instead of under "Logs." And if you're on really old firmware, the feature won't be there at all--it's a relatively recent introduction.

This isn't really what that means. It means that it never reported back that it actually was turned off. (Events normally only come from devices reporting things. Sending a command per se does not necessarily do this, even though for most commands it should eventually cause this change.)

Your Rule logs suggest the command got sent, and this just shows that the device didn't respond for whatever reason. Could be the device, could be your Z-Wave network, could be a few things.

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I did find a Neo Coolcam that was generating a lot of traffic, changed reporting from every 30 mins to every 3 hours and reset the Device Stats to see if it settles down.

Also noticed the Boiler is bouncing a zwave signal all around the house to get back to the Hub, with great cunning avoiding all 8 zwave repeaters :slight_smile:

Will try powering off and restart the boiler controller.

Thank you for your help - much appreciated

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Confirms I did right to scrap my repeater. Why are they so hated by devices?

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I am not sure but I had heard that Repeaters don't show in ZWAVE routing but are used by devices.

@bcopeland ?

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No they do - or would. Mine did, and on one occasion it was also hopped through by a device and that showed on the routing.

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You can track the hubs load by using @thebearmay Hub Information Driver.
You can track hub load or hub% in a graph using Tile Master.

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