Funny, I Don't Feel Special

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...to show our appreciation for your long-time loyalty, we're offering you the option to upgrade to our newest and most advanced thermostat, the Nest Learning Thermostat (4th gen), at a SPECIAL price: $219.99

Dear Nest Learning Thermostat owner,

We want to make you aware of some upcoming changes that will impact our earliest generation thermostats, including those at Ranch. Starting October 25, 2025, Google will no longer provide support for the Nest Learning Thermostat (1st gen) launched in 2011 and Nest Learning Thermostat (2nd gen) launched in 2012.

You will still be able to access temperature, mode, schedules, and settings directly on the thermostat—and existing schedules should continue to work uninterrupted. However, these thermostats will no longer receive software or security updates, will not have any Nest app or Home app controls, and will end support for other connected features like Home/Away Assist. See more details at our support website.

To help with this transition and to show our appreciation for your long-time loyalty, we're offering you the option to upgrade to our newest and most advanced thermostat, the Nest Learning Thermostat (4th gen), at a special price: CAD 219.99 (MSRP CAD 379.99).

I have a friend who has a nest thermostat. How can you tell what version nest you have? Thanks.

This is what it looks like:

Hard to tell from a pic, but screen size is probably easiest.
Looks like a 3rd gen. :thinking: :person_shrugging:

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I think the model below, Display-3.4, may point towards Gen 3:

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If they haven't received an email saying they're soon to own some e-waste, they're probably safe.
For another year or two. :roll_eyes:

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And this is why I go out of my way to avoid devices that require connection to some random company's website in order for them to work...
Got burned with the Harmony / Monster Remote, which I would be using right now if they had not shut down the website. Not going to get burned again.

ASAIK, even if HE shut down their websites, my HE with the existing devices would continue to work just fine, I would only lose access via my phone.

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We have no need for a programmable thermostat now that we are both retired and are homebodies. In the winter it stays at 70 and in the summer it stays at 76.

Might sell this before Nest does the same thing to the 3rd generation

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It's dead. They really don't drag their feet when it comes to shutting stuff down.

Too bad the rest of the Google support systems don't work that fast. :slightly_frowning_face:

its dead

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Especially Google

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I'm with you on Harmony, loved mine, three of them; but, I got a good 10 or 15 years out of them. Not sure how long we can expect anything to be supported. Just checked, don't know if my LR one no longer works or if the remote needs a new battery. Time has moved on. I haven't used the button to enable playing from the DVD player for a couple of years. Probably time to dust it off.

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Well, there may be something at the end of the tunnel other than a train named Google. :wink:

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Not sure which Harmony you speak of ( the older Harmony One? ), but the Harmony hub still works and can still be programmed.

This is so very unacceptable!

I'm glad their being held to a different standard when it comes to the Nest Protect at least. Once mine have all expired (and I did buy a few extra once I learned they would stop selling them), I will no longer buy anything from Google or Alphabet, or whatever they want to be called in the future.

Mine is the equivalent of the Harmony 890 (sold as a Monster AVL300, which also had late 2000's era z-wave to facilitate lighting controls). There is no hub. It did however have a remote RF base station.

The Harmony 890 can only be programmed by signing into the Harmony website, setting up your equipment and button presses, then synching your setup to the remote. Same with the RF base station and the z-wave commands that you could send from the remote control.

To add insult to injury, the devices sold with the Monster label logged onto a separate interface with the Monster logo, but the back end was the exact same as Harmony. Harmony took that site down with absolutely NO notice to the Monster users. After a few Monster users reported a workaround on the Harmony site, they disabled that. So the owners of the Monster branded devices were SOL in about 2021; the owners of the Harmony devices had until either last year or this year...

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