Every light turns on in the house at 2:30am

So this has now happened twice within a week. Every light in the house turns on at the brightest level at about 2:30am.
I haven’t done anything to the hub recently in order for me to mess something up. The hub has been running pretty seamlessly for a long time. I’m not sure why this is an issue all of a sudden.
Tonight it woke my 3 month old baby up because the lights went to full brightness in his room :man_facepalming: along with the rest of the house.
I reboot the hub, but when it came back up every light came on again.
So why is this happening and what’s the fix?

If you check the events page for one of the lights that is coming on at 2:30 it should tell you what if any rule or other event caused it to come on. Other possibility is that you have something causing a brief power outage at that time and you have the sort of bulbs that can be set to come on full when powered on.

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That is awful and very odd, however without
more details about the make/model of what devices you are using, along with screenshots of your past logs from the time frame when the event occurred, it is impossible for us to help you identify the root cause. Based on other similar incidents, this could be an event triggered by external services like Amazon Alexa hunches, if you use Alexa. Or if your lights are Zigbee, you may be dealing with brief power outages that could cause Zigbee devices to come on when the power is restored, as @Inge_Jones suggested above.

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@BrandonT are you running Alexa/Echo? If so turn off hunches.

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What kind of light bulbs are you using?

I know that Hue ZL bulbs and most WiFi bulbs are designed so that they come on at full brightness if there is a loss of power and power is restored. They then have to be turned off manually or through the hub.

I have rules that will turn on all the lights in the house in the event of an intruder during sleeping hours. If an external door opens or a motion sensor triggers, the lights turn on in hopes of scaring off the intruder and waking us before he reaches the bedroom.

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Are you using Alexa? Sounds like you are a victim of their evil, insidious “feature” hunches. If you are using Alexa’s turn hunches off. Hunches is Amazon’s way of saying they know what you want better than you do.

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GO to one of the effected devices pages and click the "Events" tab at the top.

Find events around the time when the incident happened and get a screenshot of the ENTIRE tables with the headings, including the time stamps.

Basically looking for a command-on event and "Produced By" column to see what called the command.

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So, most of my devices are switches and dimmers. I have a few zigbee bulbs and those are also affected. And yes, I have Alexa and I will be checking the hunches setting. But I think I turned that off.
Like… every light comes on though! And… I’ll send Alexa a command to turn the lights off… “echo, goodnight” which should turn all of the indoor lights off. They will go off and then a few seconds later all of them come on again. So I’m panicking while my wife and baby are sleeping… and I just open the Hubitat app and reboot the system which usually fixes the issue. Therefore, no logs.

Anyhow… thanks for the feedback. This is a new problem. It’s an older 5 hub. Has worked great for years with little issues. I did recently add the inivelli dimmer and a switch in the new nursery but I have those brand devices throughout the house otherwise.

Did you do this yet?

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A reboot does not clear the logs or the event history.
So... if you do what I said we can help you figure it out....

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Mind me asking what do you mean by rebooting "fixes the issue"?

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That wouldn't cause the lights to come on, even if the newly added devices might negatively impact your hub. A misbehaving device would have the opposite effect, meaning that the lights may not turn on if there are issues.

Lights coming on when they shouldn't can be traced to very few events. Here are the most common I have seen:

  • a misconfigured rule.
  • a misbehaving device used in a rule as restriction for the rule.
  • alexa hunches.
  • an Android tablet used as display running fullykiosk**

**We've seen reports of some Android tables with always on display triggering screen touches that could result in activating a dashboard tile.

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So, went about a month with no issues and this happened again last night at 3:15am ish. All of the lights came on bright.

I went to the "events" page of a couple of the devices that turned on (which is seemingly every device in the house) and it looks like something to do with Amazon Alexa.
I went into the Alexa App, but I'm not seeing a place to completely turn "Hunches" off if that indeed is the issue.
Alexa App > More> Settings> Hunches> "Settings/ gear Wheel"
Everything on that screen is switched off (hunches suggestions, Mobile Notifications).
I did go into "choose lights Alexa can control" and deselected all of the devices. I don't know if that setting is only for hunches or for voice commands as well. But everything seems to still work with voice commands despite unchecking those devices.

I assume that I need to do this for my wife's Alexa account as well... I don't see the "Automatic Actions" settings under her Alexa app settings for Hunches. But I went through the Hunches settings and tried to make sure everything was turned off.

Any other suggestions? ...things to look for?


@BrandonT Yes looks like Alexa called the set level commands at 3:11. If hunches is off it should not be doing anything. You can just use voice command and tell Alexa to turn off hunches.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G63YSH7WU32D9GW9

There is a hunches history and and a voice commands history. If you dig around there will be a way to see what caused Alexa to send the commands.

I found the instructions to see the voice history: Found the directions for checking the voice history: Review Your Alexa Voice History - Amazon Customer Service

Hunches history should be right in the same spot as the hunches settings.

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Is it possible you're talking in your sleep or otherwise making sounds that Alexa thinks are this command? I think I did that once and got suddenly woken up by Alexa talking. 2-3am is a peak time for me to have vivid dreams if I am going to have them at all.

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You can always say "Alexa, what did you hear?" if you think this might have happened. There are times when she thinks I am talking to her when I am not. Usually, that is just funny, but turning the lights on in the middle of the night is not funny.

Make sure you do not have any Alexa routines that are easily triggered with simple voice commands. The more complex the voice commands, the less likely they are to be triggered inadvertently.

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Check your alexa routines. I had one added somehow that was testing the lights. I did not add it. Somehow it thought i said something and set it up on its own

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Thanks guys... I'm going to keep an eye on all of the Alexa settings mentioned. I'm not seeing anything outside of "hunches" that would do this. The routines all check out and I'm not talking in my sleep. This past time it happened, I just laid down to go to sleep. There were no commands called to Alexa.

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