Duplicate Simple Automation App on C4

So I am trying to create a new Simple Automation Rule but it seems the app is showing twice on my C4 hub. When I go in to make a new rule, I get an error about versions. Both built-in apps seem to be the same..anyone know what I can do about this? Attached below are the screenshots of what I see:



Tagging @support_team. This is an interesting one... :thinking:

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Can you please reboot the hub from Settings to see if that solves the problem? If it doesn't, what platform version is your hub running?

I should have mentioned that I had rebooted the C4 before posting as it didn't resolve the issue. I just tried it again and no change. I am running 2.3.4.119.

Thanks, we are looking into this.

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Can you go to http://hubs.ip.address.here/app/appTypeList and see if there is one of the two Simple Automation Rules apps with an option to delete next to it? If yes, please delete it. Sometimes, these get left over during updates, typically if a couple versions are skipped.

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Hi, looks like I have quite a few...? Attached is what I see when I visit the URL. Do you want me to hit EVERY delete link for every app (not just the Simple Automation Rules/Rule)?

You can see some apps have similar names such as Simple Automation Rule 1.2 vs Simple Automation Rule vs Simple Automation Rules...

Here's the same in text format:

Id	Type	Name	Class location	Namespace/name	Instances	Action
1	sys	Zone Motion Controllers	zoneMotionControllers	hubitat/Zone Motion Controllers		Delete
2	sys	Sonos Integration	sonosIntegration	hubitat/Sonos Integration		Delete
3	sys	SharpTools	sharptoolsIntegration	sharptools-io/SharpTools		Delete
4	sys	Rule Machine Legacy	ruleMachineApp	hubitat/Rule Machine Legacy		Delete
5	sys	Rule-2.5	ruleApp25	hubitat/Rule-2.5		Delete
6	sys	Rule	ruleApp	hubitat/Rule		Delete
7	sys	Rachio Integration	rachioIntegration	rachio/Rachio Integration		Delete
8	dep	Nest Integration	nestIntegration	hubitat/Nest Integration		
9	sys	Motion Zone	motionZone	hubitat/Motion Zone		Delete
10	sys	Motion and Mode Lighting Apps	motionLightingApps	hubitat/Motion and Mode Lighting Apps	1	
11	sys	Motion Lighting	motionLighting	hubitat/Motion Lighting	1	
12	sys	Mode Lighting	modeLighting	hubitat/Mode Lighting		Delete
13	sys	Lutron Integrator	lutronIntegrator	hubitat/Lutron Integrator		Delete
14	sys	Lutron Integration	lutronIntegration	hubitat/Lutron Integration		Delete
15	sys	Link to Hub	linkToHub	hubitat/Link to Hub		Delete
16	sys	Life360 Connector	life360connector	hubitat/Life360 Connector		Delete
17	sys	IFTTT Integration	iftttApp	hubitat/IFTTT Integration		Delete
18	sys	Hue Bridge Integration	hueIntegration	hubitat/Hue Bridge Integration		Delete
19	sys	Simple Automation Rules	simpleAutomationRules	hubitat/Simple Automation Rules	1	
20	sys	Simple Automation Rule	simpleAutomationRule	hubitat/Simple Automation Rule		Delete
21	sys	Hubitat® Safety Monitor	hubitatSafetyMonitor	hubitat/Hubitat® Safety Monitor	1	
22	sys	Mode Manager Legacy	hubitatModeManager	hubitat/Mode Manager Legacy		Delete
23	sys	Maker API	hubitatMakerAPI	hubitat/Maker API	1	
24	sys	Hubitat® Dashboard	hubitatDashboardParent	hubitat/Hubitat® Dashboard		Delete
25	sys	Dashboard	hubitatDashboardChild	hubitat/Dashboard		Delete
26	sys	Hub Link	hubLinkApp	hubitat/Hub Link		Delete
27	sys	HSM Rule	hsmRule	hubitat/HSM Rule		Delete
28	sys	Groups and Scenes	groupsAndScenes	hubitat/Groups and Scenes	1	
29	sys	Group-2.0	group20	hubitat/Group-2.0		Delete
30	sys	Ecobee Integration	ecobeeIntegration	hubitat/Ecobee Integration	1	
31	sys	Custom Command	customCommand	hubitat/Custom Command		Delete
32	sys	Button Integrator No Modes	buttonIntegratorNoModes	hubitat/Button Integrator No Modes		Delete
33	sys	Button Integrator	buttonIntegrator	hubitat/Button Integrator		Delete
34	sys	Button Controllers	buttonControllers	hubitat/Button Controllers	1	
35	sys	Button Controller-1.6	buttonController16	hubitat/Button Controller-1.6		Delete
36	sys	Button Controller-1.5	buttonController15	hubitat/Button Controller-1.5		Delete
37	sys	Button Controller	buttonController	hubitat/Button Controller		Delete
38	sys	Amazon Echo App	amazonEchoApp	hubitat/Amazon Echo App		Delete
39	sys	Amazon Echo Skill	amazonAlexaSkill	hubitat/Amazon Echo Skill	1	
40	sys	Scene	aScene	hubitat/Scene		Delete
65	sys	Scene-1.2	aScene12	hubitat/Scene-1.2	2	
97	sys	Z-Wave Poller	zwavePoller	hubitat/Z-Wave Poller		Delete
98	sys	Google Home	googleHomeIntegration	hubitat/Google Home		Delete
161	sys	Yeelight Integration	yeelightIntegration	hubitat/Yeelight Integration		Delete
162	sys	Lock Code Manager	lockCodeManager	hubitat/Lock Code Manager	1	
257	sys	Thermostat Scheduler Legacy	thermostatScheduler	hubitat/Thermostat Scheduler Legacy		Delete
289	sys	Chromecast Integration (beta)	chromecastIntegration	hubitat/Chromecast Integration (beta)		Delete
353	sys	Notifications	notifications	hubitat/Notifications	1	
354	sys	Notifier	notifiApp	hubitat/Notifier	2	
385	sys	Rule-3.0	ruleApp30	hubitat/Rule-3.0		Delete
417	sys	Button Controller-3.0	buttonController30	hubitat/Button Controller-3.0		Delete
418	sys	Scene Transition	aSceneTransition	hubitat/Scene Transition		Delete
481	sys	Rule-4.0	ruleApp40	hubitat/Rule-4.0		Delete
513	sys	Mirror	parentMirror	hubitat/Mirror		Delete
514	sys	Mirror Me	childMirrorMe	hubitat/Mirror Me		Delete
545	sys	Let's Get Started!	letsGetStarted	hubitat/Let's Get Started!		Delete
577	sys	Group-2.1	group21	hubitat/Group-2.1	3	
578	sys	App Snapper	appSnapper	hubitat/App Snapper		Delete
641	usr	Google Sheets Logging		cschwer/Google Sheets Logging		
673	sys	Simple Automation Rules	simpleAutomationRules	hubitat/Simple Automation Rules		Delete
674	sys	Simple Automation Rule	simpleAutomationRule	hubitat/Simple Automation Rule		Delete
705	usr	Hubitat Package Manager		dcm.hpm/Hubitat Package Manager	1	
737	sys	Snap Server	snapServer	hubitat/Snap Server		Delete
738	sys	Snap Installer	snapInstaller	hubitat/Snap Installer		Delete
739	sys	Snap Creator	snapCreator	hubitat/Snap Creator		Delete
740	sys	Snap	snapApp	hubitat/Snap		Delete
769	usr	Combined Presence		joelwetzel/Combined Presence	1	
770	usr	Combined Presence Boolean Combiner		joelwetzel/Combined Presence Boolean Combiner		
771	usr	Combined Presence Advanced Combiner		joelwetzel/Combined Presence Advanced Combiner		
801	sys	Groups	groups	hubitat/Groups		Delete
802	sys	Group	group	hubitat/Group		Delete
803	sys	Button Controller-3.1	buttonController31	hubitat/Button Controller-3.1		Delete
833	usr	Combined Presence Standard Combiner		joelwetzel/Combined Presence Standard Combiner	1	
929	sys	Thermostat Controller Legacy	thermostatController	hubitat/Thermostat Controller Legacy		Delete
930	sys	Simple Automation Rule 1.1	simpleAutomationRule11	hubitat/Simple Automation Rule 1.1		Delete
931	sys	Hub Manager	hubManager	hubitat/Hub Manager		Delete
932	sys	SnapX	hsnapx	hubitat/SnapX		Delete
933	sys	Device Firmware Updater	deviceFirmwareUpdater	hubitat/Device Firmware Updater	1	
934	sys	ActionTiles BETA	ActionTilesBETA	ActionTiles/ActionTiles BETA		Delete
935	sys	ActionTiles	ActionTiles	ActionTiles/ActionTiles		Delete
961	sys	Rule-4.1	ruleApp41	hubitat/Rule-4.1		Delete
962	sys	Preference Manager	preferenceManager	hubitat/Preference Manager	1	
963	sys	Networking	networkingManager	hubitat/Networking	1	
1028	sys	Basic Rules	basicRules	hubitat/Basic Rules		Delete
1029	sys	Basic Rule-1.0	basicRule10	hubitat/Basic Rule-1.0		Delete
1030	sys	Basic Rule	basicRule	hubitat/Basic Rule		Delete
1060	sys	Mobile App Manager	mobileAppManager	hubitat/Mobile App Manager	1	
1061	sys	Sample library using app	appLibraryUseExample	hubitat/Sample library using app		Delete
1064	sys	Rule Machine	ruleMachineV	hubitat/Rule Machine	1	
1065	sys	Rule-5.0	ruleApp50	hubitat/Rule-5.0		Delete
1066	sys	Hub Variables	hubVariables	hubitat/Hub Variables	1	
1067	sys	Button Controller-5.0	buttonController50	hubitat/Button Controller-5.0		Delete
1068	sys	Add device	addDeviceWizard	hubitat/Add device	1	
1069	sys	Button Rule-5.0	buttonRule	hubitat/Button Rule-5.0		Delete
1070	sys	SnapX	hubaManagerSnapX	hubitat/SnapX		Delete
1073	sys	Button Controller-5.0a	buttonController50a	hubitat/Button Controller-5.0a		Delete
1074	sys	Button Rule-5.0a	buttonRuleA	hubitat/Button Rule-5.0a		Delete
1078	sys	Simple Automation Rule 1.2	simpleAutomationRule12	hubitat/Simple Automation Rule 1.2	1	
1079	sys	Settings	settingsApp	hubitat/Settings	1	
1080	sys	Rule-5.1	ruleApp51	hubitat/Rule-5.1	26	
1081	sys	Lutron installation helper	lutronInstallationHelper	hubitat/Lutron installation helper		Delete
1082	sys	Google Home installation helper	googleHomeInstallationHelper	hubitat/Google Home installation helper		Delete
1083	sys	Ecobee installation helper	ecobeeInstallationHelper	hubitat/Ecobee installation helper		Delete
1084	sys	Button Controller-5.1	buttonController51	hubitat/Button Controller-5.1	3	
1085	sys	Export/Import/Clone	appCloner	hubitat/Export/Import/Clone		Delete
1086	sys	Amazon Alexa installation helper	amazonAlexaInstallationHelper	hubitat/Amazon Alexa installation helper		Delete
1110	sys	Button Rule-5.1	buttonRule51	hubitat/Button Rule-5.1	4	
1174	sys	LIFX Integration	hubitatLifx	hubitat/LIFX Integration		Delete
1175	sys	Lock Mirror	childLockMirrorMe	hubitat/Lock Mirror		Delete
1238	usr	Rebooter		dcm.rebooter/Rebooter	1	
1270	sys	Swap Apps Device	swapDevice	hubitat/Swap Apps Device		Delete
1302	sys	Room Lighting	roomLighting	hubitat/Room Lighting	1	
1303	sys	Bond Integration	hubitatBond	hubitat/Bond Integration		Delete
1304	sys	Hub mesh	hubMeshAppStub	hubitat/Hub mesh		Delete
1305	sys	Room Lights	roomLights	hubitat/Room Lights	2	
1334	usr	MyQ Lite		brbeaird/MyQ Lite	1	
1366	sys	Kasa Integration	davegut_KasaIntegration	davegutBuiltin/Kasa Integration		Delete
1367	sys	Wiz Integration	wizIntegrationApp	hubitat/Wiz Integration		Delete
1368	sys	Thermostat Schedulers	thermostatSchedulers	hubitat/Thermostat Schedulers		Delete
1369	sys	Thermostat Scheduler 2.0	thermostatScheduler20	hubitat/Thermostat Scheduler 2.0		Delete
1370	sys	Thermostat Controllers	thermostatControllers	hubitat/Thermostat Controllers		Delete
1371	sys	Thermostat Controller 2.0	thermostatController20	hubitat/Thermostat Controller 2.0		Delete
1372	sys	Mode Manager	modeManager20	hubitat/Mode Manager	1	
1373	sys	HomeKit Integration (beta)	homeKitIntegration	hubitat/HomeKit Integration (beta)		Delete
1377	usr	InfluxDB Logger		nowhereville/InfluxDB Logger	1	
1378	sys	Basic Button Controllers	basicButtonControllers	hubitat/Basic Button Controllers		Delete
1379	sys	Basic Button Controller	basicButtonController	hubitat/Basic Button Controller		Delete
1380	sys	Basic Button Rule	basicButtonRule	hubitat/Basic Button Rule		Delete
1381	usr	Broadlink System Manager		tomw/Broadlink System Manager	1	
1382	usr	BatteryMonitor		notoriousbdg/BatteryMonitor		
1383	sys	Lutron QS Integration	lutronQSintegration	hubitat/Lutron QS Integration		Delete

No, they will get recreated upon reboot anyway. Just delete the ones that give trouble.

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Thanks, look like it's resolved.

So just to be sure, I can do some cleanup and remove the other apps as well if they have a 'DELETE' link next to them? No harm no foul other than my OCD calming down?

They'll come right back on reboot. These are not app instances, they are app types.

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