Can smart things go local if they wanted to? From their end

I am not sure just how much data Apple really has access to via HomeKit... :thinking:

Based on the following, not too much at all.

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Quite possibly, with the lightify cloud shutting down in Aug 2021, the Sylvania Flex strips should get cheaper. If you don't want to wait, you could get cheap strips from Asia and use the H801 wifi controller, after flashing it. It works great on HE.

Yes, my comment was a broader comment, not Homekit specific, about which I know almost nothing. (Just ask my wife, I know almost nothing about pretty much everything.) :wink: