I cannot believe there is a new c8 pro, you would think they would get the c8 working more reliably first, I had c5 working more reliably, in fact when I got my c8 and migrated everything I did go back to my c5 for a few months because the c8 just was to unreliable I did go back to my c8 and I have my c8 running around 6 months but it is still not as reliable as the c5, one day my curtains and blinds will open and close fine, another day one curtain will open/close or one of my blinds will do the same, they are zigbee zemismart motors and are set the same, one of the motors will just loose connection to the c8 hub just randomly which they never did with the c5 hub, as anyone got any ideas please.
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I'm gonna wait for the C9
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You mean C-9 Pro? 
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Some of us have a lot of apps, integrations and automation going on. Personally I had to add a second c7 for some of the cloud integrations I use to prevent my primary hub from melting down.
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This exactly, turning on matter for me used up a ton of memory.
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??? Whatās wrong with it? I migrated from a c7 and itās rock solid.
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ya my c8 is running very reliably.. i think the kicker was adding the sonoff dongles for repeaters..
the only lingering issue i have is sometimes innability to pair zigbee devices or takes multiple tries..
but i believe this is on the new zigbee chipset.. not the hub itself.
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Iāll be grabbing one at some point soonish.
I just started to finally migrate from a C4 to a C7 and C8 with hub mesh.
Really want the faster hardware and support Hubitat with the cash to put into the company, community, and more development for things like the phone apps and dashboards which really need work.
But I want to wait and see feedback on usage and performance.
For me the issue I have is with doing hub mesh itās hard to pin point where the beefier hub would go in a multi-hub set up.
Right now itās sorta even hard to know how best to do multi-hub as it is without this double performance hub coming into the mix.
Especially when hub mesh shared devices canāt be used with HomeKit.
So for a question as to the differences, those that already ordered or plan to soon and use it with a multi-hub setup, what might be the best say to maximize this new super hub?
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Thinking that I'll probably use the extra hub to dedicate one to Matter devices.
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No, I donāt believe so. Migration to C8 Pro from C8 with a cloud backup should be possible without a Hub Protect subscription.
I was able to migrate from my C7, but when my C8 died and was sent a new one, I had to use the old C7 backup. Would be good to know for sure before I have to roll back!
Thatās generally the scenario hub protect was intended to protect against.
The subscription covers a replacement hub and the cloud backups that are needed to seamlessly restore from a dead hub to a replacement.
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Iāve ordered a ālatest and greatestā C8 Pro although Iām not really convinced why!
Hubitat staff have long stated that processor performance is not a restriction in HA operation and I think I buy that reasoning.
Memory is much more debatable and that seems to be played down by Hubitat too but is this just more is good and will be filled less rapidly? Hubitat have never seemed to bottom memory issues recently and diagnostics are vague. Are software issues (memory leaks) still lurking?
Is Matter taxing available memory?
So is the C8 Plus a solution to current issues or just a plaster over a stubborn wound?
The new model is called the C8 Pro, and thereās a few threads discussing the upgraded specs already. @moderators.
It is and corrected above but my question, as a developer, is very targeted at why memory size and is it a real ceiling currently?
Has Matter exposed this and will this fix it?
Do you know? Or has another topic answered this?
I suspect only Hubitat staff can answer this.
Network chatter.
It sounds like you're saying I should pay a subscription fee to cover a defective product (the first C8 hub was not working correctly from day 1)? That's what it feels like Hubitat is doing and, even if some exceptions were made for defects, there should be no cost to move from like-like hardware under warranty and no cost to upgrade hardware (since you're paying for the new hardware). It would be like Apple saying, "here's your new phone, but you have to pay us a subscription fee if you want your data copied over".
I wonāt try to speak to the details of your warranty case since Iām not support staff. In general, hub backups are only made to the cloud as part of the hub protect subscription; local backups have always been available and free, though incomplete wrt Z radio database data.
But afaik, a new C8 Pro purchase should have the same migrate feature a new C8 purchase does, which includes a one-time cloud backup to facilitate the migration.
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Matter seems to need a lot of ram - my primary hub used to sit in the 250MB + free range for most of the time, now itās well below 200 MB free most of the time.
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Did you ask staff on your ticket if you could get a migration backup to move to the replacement hub? Its not an automatic thing. From what I have seen in the past if you are in the normal warranty they will take care of you.
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