Bathroom smart door knobs?

anyone tried any smart door knobs for bathroom?

or this

or this

or this

or this

so i'd like something like this.

  • it/s for family home bathroom, so lock has to be lever or knob type. No touchpads, they'd look odd on bathroom door. Would scare off visitors.
  • indicates lock/unlocked state just like the first item above. Handy to have that visual display.
  • from inside it's a manual lock of some kind. Prefer it all manual as it inspires confidence. No battery operated motorised methods. Pure mechanical ones tend to last years without issues.
  • This is the tricky one, for it to somehow report it's lock/unlocked status to hubitat via zwave/zigbee.

I've tried looking but couldn't find such as item that meets all my needs. Has anyone retrofitted a sensor into one of these dumb locks?

Because, unfortunately, it doesn't exist.

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anyone retrofitted a sensor into something like this?

possible to put a reed sensor inside dead bolt hole, glue a magnet to end of bolt, and wire the reed sensor to zwave sensor.

Anyone done this?

Yes, this is how i handle my front door. I used Aeotec Smart recessed sensor 7 to keep it self contained. Battery replacement was initially a challenge, but i have a special paper clip now to pull the pcb out of its holder to make it easy. YMMV.

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And what for you will need this info?
I have a bidet seat which is monitored by power measure outlet. In case toilet is occupied it turns on very small decorative light in a bedroom indicating toilet occupancy state.

can you send a picture of the door so i can see how you did it?

it's the most reliable way to determine that bathroom is occupied. I want sensor state in my HE dashboard.

i know there is motion sensor mm wave but i prefer not to put that in the bathroom.

Why would you not want to use this in a bathroom? I have one in each of my bathrooms to keep the lights on when someone is in there including taking a shower.

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I would say that if the door is closed, assume that the bathroom is occupied. First knock. So all you would need is your usual contact sensor.

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No, closed bathroom door doesn't mean bathroom is occupied.
However if door lock is locked then bathroom is occupied for sure.
Furthermore, in my case door could be closed, still unlocked but bathroom is occupied. That is why I have a bidet seat monitored plus PIR/mmWave combo sensor. This gives me a very clear picture on what is going on in a bathroom. And a visual occupancy indicator is a small decorative light in a Bedroom.

yea i know it works well. But some of my older generation visitors i remember would ask if that's a camera. Just want to avoid that suspicion.

that will not be accurate. Because a door can be closed but not locked. And it would show as occupied.

that is a nice idea! what light bulb is it? can it do green and red light?

This I understand. I had some visitors on Sunday that were not older and asked the same thing about the Aqara FP300 in my kitchen.

This is small seashell shaped decorative light. I don't need it to be color but can make it color if needed.

Knocking is good manners.

i could just say its a humidity sensor. To which it is. Minus the "motion sensor" info.

Humidity data can be used to turn on exhaust fan when needed.

Putting a wired mmwave sensor in single story house bathroom is easy. From the roof cavity. Clean look. Easier than cutting good to add zwave sensor. Hmmm

decisions decisions.

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I use a humidity sensor to do just that if the bathroom door is left open for some reason. Kids do crazy stuff. lol.

As for the mmWave sensor I have changed all mine over to the Aqara FP300 which is battery powered with no cords. They are working great for me and gives much more flexibility for placement.

We have a small house with a small main bathroom. The light switch's FOV covers that whole bathroom (including the shower area), so I use the Inovelli mmW switch velvetfoot linked above for keeping bathroom lights on.

But due to its position, it's too slow to trigger the lights on, and that mmW is a bit too unpredictably trigger-happy anyway with airflows and whatever other factors in that space.

So I use a Hue PIR positioned exclusively to catch you as you cross the plane of the door... That very reliably triggers the lights on immediately, and it hasn't had any false positives. Then the Blue mmW takes over to keep the lights on (and ultimately determines when to turn them off).

And if all that goes to hell for whatever reason, the lights still work fine caveman-style from the switch.

That Hue PIR's placement is pretty benign and tucked away, so although I suppose a guest could potentially suspect it's a camera if they happen to notice it, that's not anything I'm losing any sleep over.

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All automations are personal, really.
You can drive yourself crazy trying to "perfect" them; I nearly have.

My door has to be closed before any motion is locked out. Except during the night, where the light doesn't come on until the door is closed.

Good to know about actual experience with that Ionovelli. Same deal for the old GE Z-Wave switch/motion sensor-slow to react.

This: ^^ Every mmWave sensor I use is paired w/a PIR motion sensor (Iris V2) for this very reason. PIR=quick on, mmWave=Keep on w/no or limited motion sensed.

And people do think sensors look like cameras, multiple guests have asked about that, both w/mmWave & my "larger" PIR motion sensors like Iris v3.

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The slow-to-react thing is really just more a placement/FOV issue -- it's much less to do with the speed or reliability of the sensor.

With the typical light switch position in a bathroom, it just takes a few steps into the space in order to get into the sensor's FOV (PIR or mmW). For some folks, that bit of delay is no problem. For us, it's a bit too slow.

Plus, the mmW is a bit more prone to ghost triggers in general (I found the same to be true when I was using a Linptech here before the Inovelli). I'm sure I could put more brain cells into refining that somewhat, but I'm too lazy. This PIR+mmW arrangement has been a real win for us - it works very well.

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