Anybody know of a device like this?

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I need a 20 amp, tamper proof, zigbee or zwave outlet, that's UL approved (or CSA).

Anybody have any suggestions?

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https://byjasco.com/products/ge-z-wave-plus-direct-wire-indooroutdoor-smart-switch-40a

Not sure I would call it "tamper proof" though.

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It's got to be an outlet I can put in a box in the kitchen...

tamper proof (or resistant) has a specific definition in the electrical code...

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Gotcha, I don't know of one (don't think there is one) rated for 20A.

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perhaps this:

Z-Wave Receptacle

But not tamperproof...

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I see the symbol in the bottom left. Is that zwave plus?

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There's no radio in that unit.

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I'd love a code compliant 20Amp Zigbee or Zwave+ in wall outlet. But for whatever reason, I don't think they exist.

I wonder if there's something like a Qubino that'll work?

S.

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No, it has an audible trip alarm, thats a speaker symbol.

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Sorry I led you astray.... saw the icon and thought it was Z-Wave.

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I've been told by the electrician, that in this new house that I'm working on, the outlets on the counter in the kitchen must be 20amp, and tamper proof.
I nearly had a fit.
I don't know of any smart outlets like that!!!!

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Thats true by code, I read that when I remodeled my kitchen. At least the 20Amp part, I don't remember the TR. I think it has to be a GFCI circuit or outlets as well. By code.

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So, what did you do? Did you put anything smart in?

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My kitchen counters are the least automated part of my house. I have smart light switches and under cabinet lights. And 1 15 amp plug that got sucked into the far left side of one of the counteracts as the counter grew out there, but nothing else.

Frustrating.

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It does, although it can be done with a GFCI breaker (with GFCI labels on the outlets) instead of individual GFCI outlets in most local code.

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There are no GFCI or 20A in-wall smart outlets.

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I would check the need for a 20 amp outlet as opposed to a 15 amp outlet on an 20 amp circuit.

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I'm pretty sure it specified 20amp outlets. Min 12 gauge wiring. Mostly because of small appliances like toaster ovens I'm sure.

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Even then you need to be careful about plugging things like microwaves, toasters, and blenders/mixers into smart outlets. Not saying it can't be done, but some can take it - and some can't.

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Good point. Lots of motors and high resistive loads in a kitchen. Still annoying.

I kind of suspect the larger gauge wiring and terminals leave little room for electronics...so no 20 Amp outlets!

S