Alternatives to using ST presence

This list does help but unfortunately most of these options require the use of IOS, which I do not use or another hub running like ST. The virtual presence switch is probably something I will look into. I do have Iris Fobs as presence which are in both cars, but I am finding there can be long delays, sometimes even minutes until it reconnects to HE. This is even with the garage being under the house and a Iris Plug directly above the garage to repeat the signal.

The problem with any WiFi or Zigbee/Z-wave solution is you generally need to be very close to the house before it will work. I have light that turn on at night based on presence and by the time these devices would trigger the light its too late.