A few questions regarding the Hub Protect plan --
-Just to be clear it allows the complete backup and restore of all of my Zigbee and Zwave devices?
-What about Wi-Fi devices like Kasa, are they backed up as well?
-If my C8 Pro died, could I restore to a new C8 Pro?
-Thanks
Yes.
Any device that connects to Hubitat over the LAN (as opposed to zigbee and z-wave) is backed up in the hub’s main database.
That means they are included in both local (free) and cloud (subscription) backups.
That is the scenario the hub protect plan is designed to accommodate. If a hub fails, they will send you a free replacement.
That's a lot of protection! I'm sold!
-Thanks
I just subscribed and made my first cloud backup. I'll sleep easier at night now! 
If only it was that easy.... 
Yea, I experienced two very brief blackouts this week. Suddenly I heard my wife screaming that the washer was not working. I said don't touch anything! I accessed my Hubitat dash and toggled the switch for the THIRDREALITY Zigbee switch that I use to measure wattage. Problem solved. Then I found my Kasa KD110 was no longer working. I'm using the "Kasa Cameras" integration to detect people. To make a long story short, I rebooted my doorbell! By toggling the circuit breaker for our foyer. Got it working shortly after. You know you're having a bad day when you have to reboot your doorbell! The worst part was my 5TB external drive I have connected to my Synology NAS to back it up. I had to reformat the drive. Then two days into the backup, had another blackout! I just reformatted it again and started another backup which will take about 4 days.
I really need to consider getting a UPS!
Yes... I would have thought that along with the 3-2-1 strategy was a minimum for a cloud replacement (not something I have finished...)
Gosh, you have had a week like I had a while back. I hate to hear that. Yes you really need to get you a UPS to help with that. I have somehow managed to get them scattered throughout the house. Lol
If you have a device that will switch between main and battery power when the power goes out you can write a rule to turn your washer power plug back on when power is restored if your hub is on a UPS. After getting that same yell from my wife I figured out a way. Lol.
Thanks! Happy wife, happy life!
Speaking of which I almost got my wife to like home automation! (Almost). I created for her the "Elvis Button". (My wife is a big fan). It's an Aqara mini switch. If you press it once, an Elvis playlist plays. Press it twice, and a Garth Brooks playlist plays. Long press and it plays an 80's music station. Just repeat each key press to turn it off.
That is awesome. My wife has to have thunderstorms sounds to fall asleep. I done something similar with a button to play thunderstorm sounds for an hour.
It's not part of the 3-2-1 strategy, but I rented a safety deposit box at the local bank for $25 per year. I rotate two USB drives with full backups every month or so. That's in addition to my NAS and cloud backups. But it's an inexpensive offsite backup option. It's like data in the bank! 
Ha! I used to call it that until I learned (actually last week) that they are safe deposit boxes. I guess because they are in the safe.
Well you taught me something. Been safety deposit box all these years.
The Ring z-wave extender has an internal battery and provides mains and battery notifications with power loss and restore.
That is the exact device I use for those type rules and Power Outage Manager. It works well.
I was thinking of some type of postmortem rule. I like the sound of Power Outage Manager. I hadn't given it much thought until the two recent power outages. I know that one switch was in the wrong position.
I don't have a Ring Z-wave extender, how else could I be notified of a power outage? Also, what do you actually do on the Hubitat after an outage?
Update: I just searched and found the Power Outage Manager app. Will definitely look into this!
-Thanks
The Zooz ZAC38 is an 800-series ZW device similar to the Ring.
For devices with a backup battery for outage monitoring that do more than just repeat, the new Zooz ZSE50 chime (drivers still under development) or a Zooz Titan + backup battery accessory also work.
I ran into the problem of a power outage causing my hub to glitch. Luckily a database rebuild took care of it but that sent me on the hunt for a solution. Power Outage Manager has worked well for me a couple times.
As @hydro311 stated there are more options out there other than just the Ring Range Extender. When I was looking I needed it only for the battery/main reporting and it was on sale and I got it cheap. So that fit the bill for me. If you have a use for any of the other products it definitely wouldn't hurt to double up on the functionality.
Thanks.
OP has continued discussion at: Looking for devices with the PowerSource attribute
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